Rayvin

Sigh... I haven't used the term 'fake news' once. I've said 'lying by omission'. That said: I raised on here a few weeks ago that the media response to Trump's immigration controls was disproportionate. Many outlets in the media were portraying the countries selected as entirely arbitrary at best, or a form of corruption (countries where Trump does business were exempt) at worst. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-majority-countries-donald-trump-travel-ban-immigration-entry-visa-three-main-countries-exempt-a7552526.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?utm_term=.39277420051f https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/30/saudi-arabia-egypt-excluded-from-trumps-ban https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/opinion/who-hasnt-trump-banned-people-from-places-where-hes-made-money.html So the last two of those are opinion pieces, but I don't actually understand why you think these shouldn't be considered (the first two aren't - they're reports which cover the issue factually but still manage to lie through omission). They are written by journalists who form part of the media, and are published for a reason - to flesh out the headline story with narrative and ideological detail. Maybe this is where the media is missing something actually - Gloom, do you believe that the general public sees opinion pieces as entirely benign and not an attempt to mould public opinion? If so, and if this is a view shared by other people working in media, this is why so many people think you're pushing narratives and trying to control the discourse. After the initial shitstorm about this decision, and the Op Ed pieces had finished their circulation span, we then saw articles being rolled out explaining the actual truth behind the decision. 3 days later. Why is this acceptable? Surely holding this information back, and this was information that was known to the media because the 7 countries were selected very recently by Obama, to no outcry whatsoever, is lying by omission? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump-administration-chose-the-7-countries/

Interesting insight here from a Leicester forum - the OP claims that Ranieri abandoned the high press which has cost them. They reverted to it against Liverpool, and were successful. I didn't see the game so I don't know, but does that sound feasible? https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/111135-theyve-all-got-it-backwards/

There is literally no point in me doing this. I've flagged it up multiple times in this thread already in the past few weeks. HF has done the same for different issues. You guys don't want to hear it.

That's because you think I'm inferring some kind of conspiracy. As I've said before, it's about ideology. And look, you don't have to take my word for it apparently. The polls support the view that the MSM has lost touch in general - at some point, there will have to be a shift in how the media operates which will address this, or they will very literally become obsolete. They allowed themselves to become a collective because almost all of them went for Trump. So he bundled them together, they all perpetuated their own overreactions and shitstorms, and thus they all came together into one collective entity. I would say this was the case but more subtle before Trump (collective in the sense of ideological alignment in a broad sense), but it looks more extreme since him. Trump is outside of their Overton window. That's the issue IMO. They don't have to report on the ignorance. They have to do things such as give historical context behind some of the decisions made by Trump (i.e. Obama laid the groundwork, or this has happened in the past and is nothing new, etc). They haven't done that. They've treated each action as if it were a new 'assault' on their ideological beliefs.

Pathetic if true. What could they possibly have against the guy?

I genuinely think he believes this stuff. Or rather, someone on his team will tell him this and he won't challenge it. Willful ignorance presumably.

I don't trust the MSM and I'm not in the same intelligence bracket as most of the people who voted for Trump. They really are losing the battle here, and it's because they're trying to direct public opinion rather than report it. I've seen them lie several times about Trump (usually by omission) and while you've attempted to defend them each time, I remain unconvinced. They are, as far as I can see, acting like the opposition party. Why they feel this is their place in the whole matter is entirely beyond me, as the more they do it, the more Trump can characterise them as the enemy. Turkeys and christmas come to mind.

Way to go MSM. Clearly winning the battle here...

What in fuck was that even about. I understand that someone had a bagel on their head... why did that start fights?

The US has the best tech. That might count for everything in the end.

Kinda hope that doesn't happen as we'll just end up with an aggressive, insanely armed state with an interest in upsetting the established order of the world.

Knackers.

A stimulus to the economy if nothing else. Also a statement to the rest of the world. The concern here is that it triggers an arms race. Presumably this is in aid of bolstering the US nuke totals?

The university normally sends out guidance on this with a company they recommend using. I wouldn't worry.

Be interesting to see that actually. He's on something like £300k/week isn't he? Hard to imagine him stepping down to around £100k/week (which I suspect is at the upper limits of what Everton could afford) but it'd be a refreshing statement if he did.

Hell of a paycut to go back to Everton...

Aye, Rooney being off to China in the summer effectively ends his chance.

If he continues this kind of form, Real Madrid will just come in and buy him away. Don't think we've too much to worry about in this day and age.

Based on quality maybe, but circulation is another matter...

Ahhh yes. That makes total sense actually. Fair enough.

who is he asking to do his well wishing there?

I agree 100% about this being ideological. Sorry to hear of the continuing frustration and difficulty. At least your partner has you to fight her corner.

Trust in the media has been on a consistently downward trend for years. They're in trouble. Trump is a liar but to be honest, I've seen the media shit stir and mislead so much over Trump and indeed before him that I'm not prepared to trust them either. I'm just going to do my own research wherever possible.