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Rayvin

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  1. The Israelis didn't do it. We did it. And generally when that sort of thing happens, the invading country doesn't displace the existing populace with it's own citizens. I can't imagine any other historical example of this being done having gone any better than what we're seeing now. Moreover, this happened at the birth of the 'civilised' age. We should know better than this.
  2. Quite a few people on spurs boards now consider him to be the worst signing, pound for pound, that they've ever made.
  3. So what? It changed hands in living memory and the expectation is that the displaced just get over it? It should have never happened. Of course, it did happen. But only the most rational of the displaced peoples will be ambivalent about that. We wouldn't meet that standard, dunno why we should expect it of them.
  4. Yeah I can see that rationally but to be fair, this happened with no consideration for the Palestinian people and they will see this as an enforced occupation. If it had happened to us we'd probably not like it either. I daresay most of us would believe the state that was created in our country had no right to exist. This isn't really Israel's fault mind, but if Europe was going to give them anything, it should have given them part of Europe. Unbelievable arrogance for us to do what we did.
  5. I meant more the creation of the state altogether. Can't comment on the apartheid bit, don't know enough of the particulars.
  6. Yep, both good points. It does seem obvious that the Palestinian side can't be placated and that Israel responds accordingly. That said, I still understand why the Palestinians are pissed off. This whole shambles remains one of the stupidest acts of politics ever considered IMO.
  7. Yep, good article. Ignores the atrocities committed but makes a good case for the basic position.
  8. Didn't he mention using the national guard for that...? Not a good sign on the 'is this fascism' chart I have to say.
  9. I wasn't trying to. Meenz strikes me as one of the most intelligent people on here actually. And far wiser than me I just meant that you can't leave the MSM unquestioned either, and that when people do question them, they find inaccuracies.
  10. True, but that comment cuts both ways. That's actually the problem.
  11. I would suggest what the media are doing with pewdiepie at the moment is a good example of how they lose people's trust. The guy has 53m subscribers, untold numbers of whom will now think the media lie about anything.
  12. Just to complete the bingo, good post HF.
  13. In other news, Kid Rock is considering running for Senate. By considering I mean that republicans are trying to persuade him to do so.
  14. Amen to that last bit
  15. I think there'll be widespread civil unrest if they oust him, all the more potent if they do so without a really good reason. He was elected as a protest against the established order, and it absolutely will look like the establishment trying to tear him down again. I wonder if Sanders could be persuaded to run again if they bin off the whole administration.
  16. I know, I was loathe to even mention the word
  17. Dangerous though, isn't it? And not to bang on about narratives but they absolutely need to have one, a really strong one, before they oust him. The media is laying the groundwork for that if nothing else.
  18. I don't think they'll come together and agree on the next president, I think they'll naturally align behind the one that best supports their ideologies. And yes, their ideologies are predominantly all neoliberal. They'll stand back and 'let us choose' if the choices are between two heavily status quo people. If we get another Sanders, they'll go for the other option. That's all I'm saying.
  19. I shouldn't have got involved but I wanna stress that this thread had an extra 4 pages this morning before I got anywhere near it
  20. Interesting. What do you think will happen after they oust him?
  21. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think it's an ideological struggle. And I'm satisfied with my reasoning even if you guys aren't. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just look at trends, what people are saying, how things are reported vis-a-vis reality, and across multiple different news platforms. My conclusions come from all that. Surely, even if you disagree and reach different conclusions, you can respect that I'm not raving with a tin foil hat.
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