Rayvin
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I'm always uncomfortable when anyone mentions 're-education'. Sounds Orwellian.
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Fair enough.
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What do you think though - should universities be able to discipline professors and students for not using preferred pronouns?
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Not looked at Joe Rogan before. I guess I could give it a look but you haven't exactly sold him here The thing with Peterson is that he seems to be a freedom of speech advocate in the truest sense, and simply won't be told what he can and can't say - and that principle alone has landed him in his coveted position as Canadian SJW's Most Wanted. It's laughable in my view, given that cavernous gap in intellect between him and the muppets chanting slogans at him while he tries to talk. I don't know how widespread this sort of thing is, but it does occasionally appear that certain universities in North America are being taken over by these people, and that they're subjecting everything to ideological purity tests. Looks almost religious in terms of how they operate. Have to say mind, Peterson is a bit of an awkward orator. Not entirely sure he's quite realised what he's gotten himself into here.
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I haven't. Not sure what bearing that has on anything given that my judgements were based on Canada's government policies rather than an assessment of their populace. For clarity though, I don't think Canadians in general are left wing regressives. I just think that their government is a firm advocate of such things. But then, that's just based on what I read in the MSM, so who knows?
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Peterson I've encountered before - I'm not in a position to judge him really in an academic sense as he's clearly more well informed than I am. He does appear to be in middle of the 'culture war' out there, though. I mean, to be fair to him, the videos I've seen of people literally just screaming over the top of him as he attempts to have rational discussions with willing students in an academic environment is frankly pathetic. Seems to be some suggestion that he might be charged with hate crimes soon for not using people's preferred personal pronouns It's all very dramatic.
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It works for them only though. Well, at least as far as I can tell. The left appear to fight identity politics based on othering the mainstream voters. I suppose you could make an argument for the 'women's vote' being a good way of implementing identity politics to appeal to a 'majority' voter base, but it just doesn't work. Largely because most women aren't all that arsed about it as a tactic (apparently, given that a fairly large number of women voted for Trump). The left could at least work on a collective identity around unity and economic progress. That could bring people together who basically have the same lots in life. They don't do this though, they go for simplistic racial and gender strategies.
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I do, yes. Given that I believe she lost because she was bigging up her 'woman' status rather than addressing people's actual concerns - a belief I hold having read articles about how blue collar workers in some of the more industrially inclined states, that had voted Democrat every election for the past 30 years, suddenly decided she had no message for them. Both sides have sullied themselves with identity politics drivel, it's just that the right are so much better at it than the left are. The left should be calling out identity politics as a flawed means of progress and labelling it as divisive and unhelpful. Instead, they're dying on their own sword.
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I feel like that in General Chat sometimes.
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All Republican Presidents do that though. And then the Dems reverse it. That's well within the bounds of normality. Not disagreeing that it's a poor decision, but we would have expected that with any Republican in charge.
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Agree with this - Article 50 is coming and this is well known by the markets. After the referendum it was a shock, but I'd be surprised to see another fall on the same scale. The sad thing is that the Brexiters will probably crow about this as if this means that people are coming around to their way of thinking.
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He fought fire with fire on the campaign trail, identity politics was used by all and sundry. No political force at the moment can claim to be 'unifying'. These people aren't nazis though. Not yet, not in their current form. If we get these people in now, and they 'act' on behalf of the enraged and left behind, it might conceivably have saved us from a more extreme reaction further down the line. I suppose it probably does also embolden the hard right, but realistically, I don't think that makes people any more likely to subscribe to their views.
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You're right on the first statement there tbf, that does encapsulate our view points. Not sure I'd go so far as to say the 'demise' of Neoliberalism, but more the readjustment to better serve more people. I don't think it'll bounce back the other way as such, I just think it'll force the left and centre to realign themselves behind people again. The left is never going to win in its current guise, and the centre is in the same boat now IMO, or at least heading that way. I'm still hoping for an Alt Left.
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Aye but that's because you think he's there because people are hateful idiots, and that this in turn means that they're a problem we have to solve by virtue of who they are. Whereas I think they're desperate idiots, who've been ignored by mainstream politics - and that this is going to force mainstream politics to change for the better (because it'll die if it doesn't).
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I didn't say you shouldn't worry. You absolutely should, as your set of opinions and general belief structure hasn't taken you to the same conclusions as mine. I'm just saying that I'm not worrying. Not yet at least.
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Aye, I saw that post too. I know I get stick on here for complaining about SJWs and the regressive wing of leftist politics, but Canada is the nation that most closely encapsulates their value systems. So it's not an entirely surprising move from them, especially with Trudeau in charge.
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Well no, I'm concerned about Article 50. Fuck knows what we're going to get out of that. I'm just not worried about Trump. Not at the moment at least.
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But seriously though, he's being stopped all over the place on almost every issue. I'll start worrying about it when he actually does something damaging. If he gets through the whole presidency having been kept within the range of a standard republican president, I'll be satisfied that he was more (unwitting) good than he was actual harm.
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Exactly. Which all the more endorses the view that this was something that needed to happen to shake the Neolibs up. Remains to be seen whether this lasts of course, but as things stand I'm pretty relaxed about this.
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I'm glad he's having problems with it at least. It does seem as though the 'threat' Trump poses is a lot smaller than we were originally led to believe
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In intriguing news, Canada is passing an anti-Islamophobia motion in which the government will single out Islam for special treatment under governmental policy, and to crack down on criticisms of it. Because that's the way to go here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-parliament-anti-islamophobia-motion-pass-muslim-irqa-khalid-david-anderson-racism-faith-a7647851.html
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Yep, very true. I wonder how far those proporations differ from the rest of the demographics though. Well, the homosexuality part at least. I'm guessing blasphemy isn't a big issue for your average guy on the street.
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The rest of the survey notes: • A large majority of British Muslims feel a strong sense of belonging to their local area (91%). This is higher than the national average (76%) • A large majority of British Muslims feel a strong sense of belonging to Britain (86%). This is higher than the national average (83%) • A large majority of British Muslims feel that they are able to practice their religion freely in Britain (94%) • British Muslims are more likely than the rest of the population to feel that they can influence decisions affecting Britain (33% vs 21%) • British Muslims are more likely than the rest of the population to feel that their local MP reflects their views (44% vs 41%) • 88% of British Muslims think that Britain is a good place for Muslims to live • 78% of British Muslims would like to integrate into British life on most things apart from Islamic schooling and some laws
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At the same time though, I think there was a channel 4 study that said a third of Muslims wouldn't turn in someone they suspected to be planning a terrorist incident. Not saying that's true, but it was a poll of Muslims. EDIT - Sorry, it's a third -would- turn them in (and it's concerning Syria rather than terrorism). Not sure what the others would do, but there's probably not enough information to make a sensible judgement: http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
