Rayvin

I think Labour's position is going to have to be making a case for working people from a position of staying in the single market. Since they're such strong proponents of immigration, this should be possible. Now, they'll lose the working class on this for certain, but with luck, most of them will go to UKIP in seats that Labour win anyway.

Aaron Banks himself is going to stand to be an MP...

He does need to pick that up though, as Labour will be an absolute irrelevance otherwise. How can they pick votes up if they're talking past people? Would a remainer vote for Labour if Corbyn's view is that he's happy to just head in the direction we're going, but has a bone to pick on many other issues? I doubt it. Even I wouldn't vote Labour on that basis.

Worryingly, Corbyn's statement doesn't mention Brexit whatsoever. EDIT - As Andrew says.

Labour have backed it, so it's happening.

I clearly missed this sort of superstitious upbringing. Probably stamped down by Catholicism.

I wonder if there'll be a single negative article about Corbyn in the Guardian until June 9th now

I think this remains likely - she must think she can get a bigger majority here. Do we need Labour to clean up though? What if Labour seats go to the Lib Dems? Surely that's just as good from our point of view. We don't need Labour to win outright, we just need them to lose to the right parties. Assuming we can bring together some manner of consensus once it's all over.

Yes but that actually breaks in our favour. Stupid people voted for Brexit, and will, hopefully, stay the fuck home for this one.

Corbyn has the right policies in a time where no one gives a fuck. It's unfortunate. Even if he stood down now there isn't enough time for Labour to get its shit together by the election, so we're going to have to hope for the best.

That's a silver lining actually, the MSM should be well fucking up for this.

Apparently Labour have said they would support it, so they'd have to contradict themselves. But yes, they absolutely should reject it.

Do you think the Tories will go back to portraying Labour as requiring the SNP to make a government, and that this will in turn ensure that the 'will of the motherfucking people' will be undone? i.e. the fear mongering that won them the last GE?

Yeah I didn't think so either, but hope springs eternal.

Any chance she could use this to U-turn on the direction we're heading? As in, the Tories could maybe come forward and say that actually, the direction they want us to head in is a lot softer than has previously been suggested..?

Election it is. Hooray.

Howay has definitely been the main optimist Not a surprise at all.

We stand no chance here unless Labour can sort out its message on Brexit to marry up with the Lib Dems and the SNP. Maybe we can get a majority that way... the SNP wouldn't even need to be actively involved, they could just sit on the sidelines and be trusted to vote the right way. I don't think the fuckers can rely on the same turnout as last time, and at least UKIP is in disarray. But still, not looking good. EDIT - plus Corbyn would probably have to come out and say he wouldn't be the PM.

BBC suggesting that a June 8th election is being announced... one source though, not confirmed.

It will get rid of Corbyn but at the cost of utterly devastating the country - it's going to be hard Brexit for sure. God damn Cameron, he's fucked everything.

She does need Labour to agree though, she can't just do it unilaterally.

The Guardian seems to think that the fact Downing Street isn't making an attempt to correct the rumour that it is an election, despite the pound collapsing, suggests that it is almost certainly an election. FFS. If Labour has any sense, they won't back it. They don't though, so they will.

There was some suggestion that this might be done so that each party could make a case for their vision of Brexit though. May has perhaps concluded that the Tories are fucked if they deliver the ramshackle Brexit they're putting together without a clear mandate to do so from the populace. If this is a snap election, it's a buck passing exercise. From her to us.

I mean, unless we're about to declare war on someone (which is highly unlikely given that Trump hasn't officially done this either, and that our statement would never be out before his) I can't think what else it could be. She might be resigning I suppose? Wild optimism but still