Rayvin

That was too blatant even for me to fall for

He's talked a lot about being anti-establishment. Which is certainly why I voted for him. And coupled with the largely anti-establishment considered Brexit, I think that he's measured this about right. What he hasn't catered for is the fact that the narratives he needed to pick up are already being used by the Brexiters.

Great, now we're facing an 'us' vs 'them' siege mentality. Fucking ridiculous woman.

Hard to believe that the culture in the bubble of football is still so vehemently anti-gay that this is something many footballers still have such a difficult time with. It needs someone high profile (Ronaldo maybe) to come out as gay to really start breaking down the barriers I suppose.

May legitimately looks like one of the undead, so I'm not convinced mortal wounds will be enough.

Don't disagree there, but if they're to stand a chance at all, it's by putting forward attractive policies. The Tories will try to tear them apart, but if people are delusional enough to vote for Brexit thinking it will improve their living standards, will they pay any attention to the Tories on this? If they do, it points to the fact that the low IQ right wing (as opposed to the elite right) are a lost cause.

...looking back, it appears that I made that comment in reference to his financial success?

Shame the chap didn't post the rest of the interview. Hard to tell if anyone has been destroyed based on 59 seconds. Parky, I've seen loads of videos like that all over the right wing YT commentariat, and they're always highly selective about the bits they show you. That said, it's a poorly worded campaign slogan. It presumably refers to the abolishment of zero hours contracts more than eliminating unemployment. I suspect the intended meaning is that they will eliminate shit jobs, rather than unemployment.

That was Monbiot, and that remains true. I think we should be encouraged by the poll swing. Granted, it's still miles off, but it's better than heading the other way. And it points to a lower risk of a wipeout. It also might suggest (and this is just me knocking ideas around) that the attacks on Corbyn have reached some degree of saturation in the previous two years. Maybe they aren't going in anymore? The Trump Effect, as it were.

Corbyn's campaigning having a positive effect, or May's switching people off? The problem is, the closer it gets, the more rabid the RW press will become.

Also interesting how badly Man Utd are doing in there tbf.

Really good comment I read on the Guardian earlier about HRC and why she failed: Despite Clinton’s vow to learn from the mistakes of her loss against Obama, “no one had figured out how to make the campaign about something bigger than Hillary.” A speechwriter assigned to draft an address laying out the reasons for Hillary’s candidacy found the task nearly impossible; Clinton simply couldn’t provide a good reason why she was running. She literally did feel as if it was simply “her turn,” and campaign staffers even floated the possibility of using “it’s her turn” as a public justification for her candidacy. Just as many people suspected, Clinton didn’t run because she had a real idea of how she wanted to change the country (after all, “America Is Already Great”), but simply felt as if she was the most qualified and deserving person for the job. Pressured to come up with a slogan to capture the essence of Clinton’s run, the team finally settled on “Breaking Barriers,” which the campaign staff all hated and the public instantly forgot. One of the many farcical moments described in the Current Affairs review of Shattered, which dissects her disaster of a campaign. Another gem is that after her defeat to Obama in 2008, her takeaway was to gain access to the emails of her entire campaign staff to comb through them for evidence of disloyalty - a carry-over from her attitude to Congress, where she developed an enemies list that would have had Richard Nixon purring. People can dress is up whichever way they want but the public's general perception of Hillary Clinton was and is more or less accurate: she is a paranoid, venal flower of the elite with absolutely no interest in the electorate besides their existence as numbers on a voting tally. Every move is calculated to harvest votes in order to attain power purely for its own sake. The sanctimony of her campaign's messaging was specifically designed to sandbag entirely justified notice of her fundamental cynicism and contempt for anyone not part of that toxic nexus where politics and finance fawn over each other, preferably at a private concert by one or another ageing musical mega-star. Unfortunately for what it says about American politics, their absolutely justified assessment of who Clinton was and for whom she wanted to govern was to little avail because the only other feasible candidate on the ballot was some real estate huckster whose name I appear to have forgotten.

That's definitely where Charnley cost us. Absolutely should have ditched McClaren after Chelsea.

I suspect they feel they have to be credible in their own right. Maybe they've looked at it and think they can win the seats that they would have to compromise on anyway, but who knows. To be honest, if you concluded that Labour's position here is that they need to preserve themselves rather than win, avoiding an alliance would make sense.

In that case hopefully he'll get the support he needs.

I only get this one because I read a bewildered article on it earlier. Not sure it's thread worthy tbh especially with the title it has...!

She has no idea what it means to do that though. No idea when to apply it, when to appease, and generally is poorly informed on all related matters. Juncker is going to fucking murder her.

Yikes, that doesn't sound good... is he still at spurs though? Needs to move if so, although that'll be harder now this has come out.

And in response we've got: "You spent more than us" "You're 12th" I think the mackems could level those jibes at us, but Villa sure as shit can't

Depends how much they think we care. Do we care that much? It's not like they'll be able to hit Twitter afterwards and gloat that we 'only' got promoted.

And this.

Also, what was this about?

Definitely a low ebb. As much as Blair was not ideal, this sort of thing would never have happened to him. Just shite everywhere when it comes to politicians.