Rayvin

I suppose. UKIP have a lot to fucking answer for.

Why though, given that Labour have committed to pushing Brexit through also? Surely UKIP have more in common with Labour in terms of their voter base, than the Tories?

Oh really? I missed that. So they're literally allowing their party to fall apart on the sacrificial altar of the Tories? Cowards.

Point of reflection - if UKIP are dying on the arses (as seems to be the case), does that help Labour? Are working class people in the North seriously about to vote Tory?

Yep, they've obliterated UKIP by the looks of it. And probably Labour on this showing. I dunno, if this many turkeys want Christmas, what can you say? As Gloom noted yesterday, TT simply isn't representative of the general population. I suspect the difference can be predominantly measured in IQ. I wonder how bad things have to get before people would stop voting for the Tories...

True Geordie could maybe be persuaded I suppose Although he's on big money now, it might be beneath him...

Democracy

Aye, well played HF.

Utter knob-ends, the FA.

Well the Guardian getting 'on message' about Corbyn is a good thing, even if they have been part of the problem up until now.

I actually thought they turned them on under those circumstances. More clicks etc.

Aye, well, as I said, didn't expect it to be a significant contribution. I'm actually surprised it's as many as that tbf.

Ok, if only 1/10 students actually vote, I'll concede that you guys are the arbiters of realism

True. I suppose the other thing here is that if we spent the money we'd have at the end of this year, we're always playing catch up. Maybe this is what Charnley was getting at, maybe we have to consolidate this year and spend next year

How come? The interest rates?

So you're a glass half empty kind of guy, huh?

9 out of 10 students have now registered to vote, and 55% of them will vote Labour. Tories a distant second at 18%. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/04/voter-registration-soars-students-backing-labour-corbyn-general-election Nice to see, albeit not hugely relevant in the broader sense of the election.

I have a Greek friend who absolutely despises Varoufakis

Gosh you're salty this morning.

I thought that was the figure HF arrived at as well mind...

That was too blatant even for me to fall for

He's talked a lot about being anti-establishment. Which is certainly why I voted for him. And coupled with the largely anti-establishment considered Brexit, I think that he's measured this about right. What he hasn't catered for is the fact that the narratives he needed to pick up are already being used by the Brexiters.

Great, now we're facing an 'us' vs 'them' siege mentality. Fucking ridiculous woman.

Hard to believe that the culture in the bubble of football is still so vehemently anti-gay that this is something many footballers still have such a difficult time with. It needs someone high profile (Ronaldo maybe) to come out as gay to really start breaking down the barriers I suppose.