Rayvin

Tbf, Charnley will be able to point to our promotion automatically and the fact it cost us nothing. He's done his job perfectly from Ashley's POV.

He has to be approaching a record of some kind, at least at the top tier of the sport. I mean, based on that 22, he's missed 66 games through suspension over the course of his career. Two seasons of being suspended pretty much.

We all do. But you could choose to be transracial and one of those 50+ genders and you'd move closer to God. I mean purity.

If you posted that on rtg they'd be up in arms.

Cisgender straight white males are just the worst kinds of people. Born with original sin iyam.

This is true. I've been called an SJW before and plenty on here think I'm delusionally leftwing in my politics

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior Wiki believes SJWs themselves came up with the term which has since been turned against them. I expect they'll attempt to reclaim it someday amid much fanfare.

Virtue signalling is where you make a big song and dance about certain virtues you have, for the primary purpose of looking good. So a good example of this was when everyone changed their Facebook avatars to French colours in solidarity with France after the Charlie Hebdo attack. Now, you could argue that the French people in general may have been heartened by this, but actually the only people who see that you've done it are your friends and family. Thus, you are signalling your virtue to them at very little personal cost. Any obvious act of virtue would be considered signalling I suppose, but it's mainly used in this sense to denote people who don't really care and are simply in it to look good. Much like people who went to church 20 years ago - often to demonstrate their 'godliness to other people. As for caring about rights and stuff - so do I. But I need evidence and clear demonstrations of cause and effect. I also need people to be open to actual, real solutions (rather than window dressing). Hence a lack of belief in any contemporary manifestation of the patriarchy for one thing. You do have people who care about social justice who are capable of these things. But the ones who aren't tend to be the ones who steal the headlines.

We surely aren't gonna get 110m to spend... maybe 50m at best? The rest should be saved for January or put into long term improvement plans.

They came up with the term as I understand it, so they're all self-identifying. It may be stupid but if thats what they say they are, who am I to argue? Agree though, its a stupid term. More virtue signalling really.

I'm moving house atm with no internet connection and am responding through my phone. Will try tomorrow to find something that lists them. I also wanna stress I don't think they're all fruitloops, and moreover agree on what most people consider to be the normal gender groupings (LGBTQ), I just think they've gone off the deep end largely in a bid to outdo each other. Victim status is quite literally a commodity to these people. EDIT - yeah that link is probs a good starting point. I don't claim to be well informed in truth, I've just heard such people make more of the fact that the number exceeds 50.

How many times is that now for Ramos? Can any defender be considered world class if they get sent off as often as he does ffs..

Well, that's kind of my point. She claims to have been raised black or something. Who are we to say that, in a climate where social justice considers social conditioning to be the paramount driver of behaviour in individuals, that her experience is not a legitimate 'black' lifestyle? I'm not seriously arguing this btw, but this is definitely one of the slippery slope areas of modern life. Consider that by claiming to be transblack, she moves to the pinnacle of the SJW hierarchy in terms of victim points. She'd be female, black and trans. AND unfairly maligned by a world that claims to be universally inclusive and yet still doesn't recognise her legitimacy. In short, these people are fruitloops.

Hang on, are we saying that the 50+ genders they've come up with are grounded in scientific fact? That'd be news to me but if a non-social science research has proven it then fair enough I guess.

It's not a bad approach either, but realistically it'll only be sustainable long term with reasonable changeover in personnel. Younger managers would be better for it. On the other hand, we're not likely to ever get anywhere under this approach.

Is the transracial bit coming from that woman who was some form of black rights activist only to be exposed as being white? And is now claiming she's transracial and actually is black? I don't get what the fuss is about tbh, it's an entirely natural extension of the same lines of thought that came before it. As for SJWs in general, it's a massive topic I think they've done a lot of good, have overextended themselves in a bid to retain relevance, and are now damaging their own cause by othering people they should be uniting with. It's also a huge attraction in a general sense to virtue signalling politicians and other assorted fuckwits. Like church and religion back in the day.

Thatcherite as a term for describing general UK policies, no. Thatcherite in terms of its real name, Neoliberalism - yes. And I have more or less given up on it. Still pisses me off though. But, people are not prepared to step up to the challenge of bettering themselves at the end of the day.

Not about to debate nukes particularly except to say that as long as the US has them, we don't need them. See almost every country in Europe. On the broader point, we were transformed into an individualistic society by Thatcher. We know this. She came out and said it, in unity with Reagan who did the same in the US (albeit this was an easier sell for them). Quite why you think Thatcher's vision is now an unchallengable truth, I don't know. She broke socialism but replaced it with nothing of any actual value. Hence widespread discontent and the reality that people are less happy now than in any other time in recorded history.

To be fair, this is also true. Between the press and Corbyn refusing to play the game, it's hopeless. It would be less hopeless if people weren't idiots though.

Agree. Agree. Agree. I'd almost rather Charnley goes than Ashley. The only reason to choose Ashley ahead of him would be that the new owner would immediately fire Charnley anyway.

I'm sure this will come as a surprise to no one, but I agree with this. Only caveat being that of the two I'd still prefer Blair, even if all that does is offer the acceptable face of the same coin. That said, Renton is ultimately right. People don't vote for actual progress. I think this is because they're fucking stupid, he thinks it's because they're concerned about being nuked by Russia. Either way, the press dictates what is and is not acceptable to vote for, and a lack of critical thinking from people generally makes governance along the same basic trajectory very easy.

Have to agree there, no chance of him confirming anything until we're literally on the cusp of the new season. I think when the first transfer comes in though, we can assume things are looking good.

Whereas voting for the party that will actively work to make your life harder is the pinnacle of common sense. We aren't relevant enough for anyone to nuke these days ffs. On the other hand, we actually DO have falling standards of living.

I thought the consensus was that he wasn't successful after all? That if he's put his money in the bank at the start of his life he'd be richer than he is now.

Did they ever? People are fucking stupid and arguably always have been. They get bought by media narratives and utter bullshit.