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Also interesting how badly Man Utd are doing in there tbf.

Really good comment I read on the Guardian earlier about HRC and why she failed: Despite Clinton’s vow to learn from the mistakes of her loss against Obama, “no one had figured out how to make the campaign about something bigger than Hillary.” A speechwriter assigned to draft an address laying out the reasons for Hillary’s candidacy found the task nearly impossible; Clinton simply couldn’t provide a good reason why she was running. She literally did feel as if it was simply “her turn,” and campaign staffers even floated the possibility of using “it’s her turn” as a public justification for her candidacy. Just as many people suspected, Clinton didn’t run because she had a real idea of how she wanted to change the country (after all, “America Is Already Great”), but simply felt as if she was the most qualified and deserving person for the job. Pressured to come up with a slogan to capture the essence of Clinton’s run, the team finally settled on “Breaking Barriers,” which the campaign staff all hated and the public instantly forgot. One of the many farcical moments described in the Current Affairs review of Shattered, which dissects her disaster of a campaign. Another gem is that after her defeat to Obama in 2008, her takeaway was to gain access to the emails of her entire campaign staff to comb through them for evidence of disloyalty - a carry-over from her attitude to Congress, where she developed an enemies list that would have had Richard Nixon purring. People can dress is up whichever way they want but the public's general perception of Hillary Clinton was and is more or less accurate: she is a paranoid, venal flower of the elite with absolutely no interest in the electorate besides their existence as numbers on a voting tally. Every move is calculated to harvest votes in order to attain power purely for its own sake. The sanctimony of her campaign's messaging was specifically designed to sandbag entirely justified notice of her fundamental cynicism and contempt for anyone not part of that toxic nexus where politics and finance fawn over each other, preferably at a private concert by one or another ageing musical mega-star. Unfortunately for what it says about American politics, their absolutely justified assessment of who Clinton was and for whom she wanted to govern was to little avail because the only other feasible candidate on the ballot was some real estate huckster whose name I appear to have forgotten.

That's definitely where Charnley cost us. Absolutely should have ditched McClaren after Chelsea.

I suspect they feel they have to be credible in their own right. Maybe they've looked at it and think they can win the seats that they would have to compromise on anyway, but who knows. To be honest, if you concluded that Labour's position here is that they need to preserve themselves rather than win, avoiding an alliance would make sense.

In that case hopefully he'll get the support he needs.

I only get this one because I read a bewildered article on it earlier. Not sure it's thread worthy tbh especially with the title it has...!

She has no idea what it means to do that though. No idea when to apply it, when to appease, and generally is poorly informed on all related matters. Juncker is going to fucking murder her.

Yikes, that doesn't sound good... is he still at spurs though? Needs to move if so, although that'll be harder now this has come out.

And in response we've got: "You spent more than us" "You're 12th" I think the mackems could level those jibes at us, but Villa sure as shit can't

Depends how much they think we care. Do we care that much? It's not like they'll be able to hit Twitter afterwards and gloat that we 'only' got promoted.

And this.

Also, what was this about?

Definitely a low ebb. As much as Blair was not ideal, this sort of thing would never have happened to him. Just shite everywhere when it comes to politicians.

Maybe the post title winning podcast?

Is this 20 questions or something?

They'll want a decent showing in front of their home fans for the final game of the season if nothing else.

:lol: What the fuck are you guys playing at here? We're utterly fucked now if it turns out our results are dependent on these threads in some form

More cos I've seen almost everyone on here fuck up in a similar vein, some more than once Andrew almost cost us promotion a couple of weeks back ffs

Doesn't look to me particularly like she will win tbh. I thought she stood a good chance, but the centre is doing everything it can here and I'm not sure disillusionment is quite high enough yet.

It's fucking brilliant though I hope they're right and that we reconsider Brexit as we go through with it.

a bit, yeah.

I actually feel bad for that guy... looks devastated.