Rayvin

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/politics/donald-trump-cold-war/ In the 80s, Trump planned to call Reagan and have himself instated as ambassador to Moscow - at which point, he'd have a one hour meeting with the Russians and would end the cold war

What more have they got though? Silly question, I'll bet they have something.

Ipsos MORI: Conservatives: 45% (down 4) Labour: 40% (up 6) Lib Dems: 7% (no change) Women and middle-aged voters are punishing Theresa Mayfollowing controversies over the “dementia tax” and school meals, an exclusive poll reveals today. The Ipsos MORI research for the Evening Standard reveals significant shifts to Labour among women and the 35-54 age group — the “pinched generation” juggling caring for ageing parents and their own children ... Before the Tory manifesto raised care costs and scrapped free meals for infants, women were dividing 49-35 for the Conservatives over Labour. Now that gap has closed to 45-44. Among people aged 35-54 there has been an even more dramatic switch. Before the social care row they split 52-34 for the Conservatives. Now they divide 36 for the Conservatives and 46 for Labour. In other words, they have switched sides. Among older voters, aged 55+, satisfaction with May has dropped from 70 to 57, though she is still positive on balance.

Syria is on its knees as well, it's actually understandable why this isn't a priority for them. Frankly, the US is out on its own in my eyes. Utterly disgraceful action to take. Basically agree with your point though, the Accord was better than nothing.

Nicaragua shouldn't be lumped into that group given they rejected it for not being radical enough, and are working to their own agenda on tackling the issue with commitments far in excess of what Paris would have held them to. They're going to be running on 90% renewables by 2020.

Amber Rudd may not even win her seat...

Environmental issues were always where he was going to be most dangerous. We have to look to the EU and China now.

I think you were closer with your earlier assessment. People like hope. In other news, Labour just categorically ruled out coalition, stating that if other parties vote down their bid to run a minority government (the SNP and Dems) they will have to explain to their voters why they enabled the Tories. Brutal

Good man.

@Happy Face Where did you post go? I was gonna say that the twitter look up thing was a good idea..!

Apparently Labour are polling ahead of Rudd in her constituency Also, Momentum do appear to have gotten this right - they have a website dedicated to helping people locate their nearest marginal for volunteering: https://mynearestmarginal.com/

Then we'll never hear the end of it

Thanks for that! More good news by the looks, although with fewer votes each time it becomes difficult to tell. And who knows how representative RTG are.

Not by any measure saying RTG are a representative basis of anything BUT they've been conducting polls in their politics sections as the election has developed. The third one is running now and is unviewable to me as I'm not a member of the forum @The Fish https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/which-party-do-you-intend-to-vote-for-on-june-8th-part-3.1367756/ But the guy running it posted the previous two outcomes: Part 1: 454 votes, 35.9% Labour, 32.2% Conservative, 18.1% Lib Dems Part 2: 378 votes, 53.2% Labour, 27.2% Conservative, 11.4 % Lib Dems Sunderland should be the sort of place May was counting on, and as such, this sort of trend would be encouraging. Doing such a poll on here would be beyond pointless

She did, but that was in another life apparently. Too long ago to worry about. Corbyn on the other hand supported the IRA about 30 years ago, and that remains hugely relevant today because reasons.

Genuinely think she's losing it... Because make no mistake, not everyone shares this view. They say we’re too small and too insignificant. That Britain can’t do it. That the British people are not up to the task. In short, they don’t believe in Britain. And if that’s where you start, you have no hope of getting the right deal for Britain in Europe. You can’t negotiate the right Brexit deal for Britain if you don’t believe in Britain. You can’t fight for Britain if you don’t have confidence in our strengths and in all that we have to offer. You can only deliver Brexit if you believe in Brexit. You can only fight for Britain if you believe in Britain. You can only deliver for Britain if you have the strength, the plan and the determination to see it through.

If Corbyn somehow won this, I'm struggling to think what the Tories would do or think about any of it In fact, I suspect they'd all leave the country for fear of being taxed too much, so maybe that'd be the end of the whole thing

May has now apparently decided the only way she's going to win this is by making it a second referendum. So she's hammering the Brexit thing to death now: For we are a great country. A country that is proud of its European heritage, but a country that has always looked beyond Europe to the wider world. And 12 months ago, the British people chose to do so again. They chose to build a more Global Britain. And let us be clear: they did so with their eyes open. They knew that it would not be straightforward. They knew the road ahead may be uncertain. But they believed that it would lead towards a brighter future for their children - and their grandchildren too. So with determination and characteristically British quiet resolve, they defied the establishment, ignored the threats and made their voice heard. I respect that decision and am clear about what needs to be done. It is time to act on their instruction. To deliver their will.

My vote is also meaningless in a safe Labour seat, except to help underline how safe it is. I'm hoping Momentum are targeting the fuck out of the marginals though, they'd be totally wasted where I am.

Osborne is fucking loving this

Why though? On the face of it, their basic premise should be a strong one. I can only think that Corbyn himself is holding them back by either offering more to people who believe in him, or terrifying those that don't. So no one is prepared to risk a vote away from their main party. This is why we need PR.

The Economist has come out in favour of the Lib Dems. Probably the only show left in town in the centre (assuming Brexit to be a hard right position and that the Tories are, therefore, further over that way). Sounds about right for their outlook. I remain disappointed with the Lib Dem campaign. They needed to achieve far more than they are in order to win back some seats from the Conservatives.

Would the SNP even want one? Support for independence has fallen below 50% and its actually starting to sound as though Sturgeon is annoying people now. Her approval ratings have gone through the floor. Not sure it's the time from the SNP's side either tbh.

Corbyn has just said that he's going to look into writing off some of the debt incurred by those who went to uni and suffered £9000/year fees because it is unfair that they should have been the only ones to suffer through them. The man is a saint But that said, he likely already has all of those voters.

First off, it's better than a no deal scenario, which is almost certainly where the Tories are headed. Secondly, I think the SNP and the Dems would get behind Corbyn's tariff free access suggestion. Whether it's in any way achievable is another issue entirely, but I suspect they'd all be united on it. What we might end up with is the need to go back to the country again with the outcome, which I think is right. A 'This is the best we can get, what do you want us to do' moment.