Rayvin

I saw the transcript of that. Painful really.

I've been tempted to give it a try myself with rocket league as its quite a watchable game, but I'm just too lazy to set it up I'll try to tune in when i can though.

I watch a bit of twitch streaming here and there anyway, so I'll try to drop in. Are you going to make a regular thing of it?

It's definitely a cue for the decline of the American world.

Not sure this is going to cut it from May: Q: [From Sky’s Faisal Islam] If you are so strong, and Jeremy Corbyn is so weak, why won’t you debate him tonight? May laughs. She says Corbyn seems keen to be on TV a lot. She says she is more worried about preparing for the Brexit talks. Q: Don’t you think public scrutiny is important? May says she thinks it is. That is why she is taking questions from voters during the campaign. She says she feels sorry for ITV. Corbyn snubbed their debate. She says debates where politicians are squabbling amongst themselves do not do anything for voters.

True. He decided on fucking over the entire world.

Course he is, the utter fucknut.

Ah, May has bottled it.

...Ok. Well I'd be stunned if he didn't but what do I know, I'm not privy to the Labour campaign

No chance he'll U turn this one, was formally announced and a big deal is being made of it now. Set in stone.

"I will be taking part in tonight’s debate because I believe we must give people the chance to hear and engage with the leaders of the main parties before they vote. I have never been afraid of a debate in my life. Labour’s campaign has been about taking our polices to people across the country and listening to the concerns of voters. The Tories have been conducting a stage-managed arms-length campaign and have treated the public with contempt. Refusing to join me in Cambridge tonight would be another sign of Theresa May’s weakness, not strength." --Corbyn

He announced it about an hour ago - The press is currently running with it all over the place so I'm not sure how you missed it Threw down a challenge to May as he did so. Bold move, which I'm now going to worry about for the rest of the day

I suspect Rudd will now be trying to phone in sick tbh, unenviable position she's in.

They haven't issued an immediate response mind. She won't go, I agree - it'd be just another example of her flip-flopping.

They're worse than the US ones. The US ones could at least claim that Hillary would have done fuck all for them as well (since her campaign had nothing to do with their issues). These people can't claim that about Corbyn. Actively voting against their interests.

Anyone know how good Amber Rudd is at debating?

There is no way May is going to agree to do it. It'll be damaging for her not to, but it'll be an absolute clusterfuck for her if she attends.

Corbyn doing the TV debate tonight. He has to be bold tbf to him, but I'm dreading the thought of Farron fucking this up for him somehow. You kinda trust the Greens to know which side their bread is buttered, and Nuttall is a fuckwit, but Farron could see this as a chance to mount some kind of bid to boost his ailing campaign now.

This is exactly what I think.

It's true though. You wouldn't believe it to be the case to talk to any of them individually I'm sure, but it certainly does appear to be true.

This is an excerpt from the Guardian - I was thinking it was all quite encouraging until the last sentence. The whole country is taken hostage by pensioners, every single time. "The demographic breakdown also shows that Labour has a lead over the Conservatives among the unskilled social class DE by 43% to 36%. Labour is also ahead among 25-to 34-year-olds – just – by 43% to 34%. This is the first time in the campaign that these two groups have shown stronger support for Labour than Conservatives. It should be noted, however, that in the key skilled working class C2 voters the Conservatives retain a lead, although the gap has narrowed to only two points to 40% to 38%. The unskilled working class and 25- to 34-year-olds join the 18- to 24-year-olds, students and black and minority ethnic voters as the key groups in which Corbyn can expect to find strong support. Unfortunately for Labour, these are the groups with the lowest turnout when it comes to actually voting in the election. It should also be kept in mind that taken together, these groups of voters total 400 out of ICM’s sample of 1,470. The over-65 subgroup, in which the Tories have a commanding lead of 64% to 20%, nearly matches them alone with 392 out of the sample."

Let's just assume it was serious.

You'd be more than welcome to do so. I'll hold my hands up.

Wonder what the fallout of Arsene Wenger's new deal will be amongst the Arsenal fan community

Think they're scapegoating Islam rather than warring with them. Good distraction from everything else.