Rayvin

Have now thought about this some. If there's a cross party deal on it, it takes Brexit out of the political one upmanship equation. Now, the Tories have been relying on Brexit completely in order to win votes in an anti-austerity time. Taking that out and making it a cross party project means they have to be judged on their non-brexit merits. No reason for Brexiters to vote for them, in theory. So Labour could still come out of this with a win even if they do pitch in on the project.

Yvette Cooper has claimed the same thing as ewerk. That in the national interest all parties should come together. Don't think it's a good idea for Labour though. Plus if they did do it, surely we could claim often and repeatedly that they're weak as piss now. Assuming there is no happy outcome to Brexit, which there isnt, we may as well let the Tories die on that sword themselves. No point in anyone else being tainted by it.

Sounds like they're being bought by a German consortium, according to all their ITKs.

I wonder if the Tories now realise they're beat. It's possible, however unlikely, that they're putting the wheels in motion for soft Brexit knowing full well that they're on the way out anyway, and that they may as well minimise the damage. This would put Labour in an awkward position in terms of which way to bend. We would think they'd follow suit, but it's possible that they might stick to their guns. In which case the Remainer vote behind Labour becomes sorely tested.

Damian Green appointed Secretary of State. Very pro- EU. Good news for Remainers.

Seems clear from what McDonnell was saying that Labour will see the course on Brexit. The thing is, I don't think they'll lose the lefties over that because their platform is so much better than the Tory one anyway. Brexit will happen if Labour win. Not sure it will with the Tories now though...

Aye, will aim to get some time in.

I suppose it was too much to hope that the party would rally quickly. Jess Phillips and others already have their knives out for Corbyn again. Labour were buoyed by a protest vote apparently (half true but not in the way they think) and that the party need to promise more policies than just spending. I'm prepared to say that parts of what they're saying are true and make sense, but they need to realise that they are the ones who need to change, not the leadership.

Trump has cancelled his state visit to the UK because he doesn't want to be protested against

He knew it as all spin though What a fucking pillock.

True, she'd stand no chance where she is next time

Well that's it isn't it. The Tories are all about taking things away through the use of fear. Hard to imagine them offering hope, it's just not their thing. And hope should always beat fear.

Not worried by Johnson, the man is a pillock who will buckle under scrutiny. Rudd would be a bigger challenge. Davidson too, although I don't think they're ready for her to lead yet.

The battle isn't won yet mind. But at least Corbyn has achieved what I hoped he would in solidifying Labour's position on the left. Still a lot of work to do though as the Tories will absolutely fight a better campaign next time.

On the other hand, McDonnell has just come out and said Labour won't stay in the single market and that the team won't change much...

Yep. I'm sure some of them will. As I said, Miliband sounded up for it.

He reached out to the centrists as well. I really fucking hope they take him up on it. Labour uniting now would be a powerful statement in the face of what the Tories are saying.

This is just perfect May in bed with terrorist sympathisers - check. Coalition of chaos - check Weak and wobbly - check. She may now have outdone Cameron as the worst PM in history.

To win the argument we need to be more decisive than that. He needs a majority.

Strong and stable though. The Tory way!

It's not over yet. The Tories can't deliver hard Brexit with the DUP and even if they could, they'd have to survive first. We may well lose the battle on the EU but I don't think our last chance for averting it has past yet.

Have to be honest, wish Davidson was Labour.

RIP

Sounds like that Timothy guy was one of the best and brightest the Tories had. Shame