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Everything posted by Rayvin
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It really is crazy what this has come to. May is such a fucking muppet. While this is, on paper, a 'good' result for Labour, it still doesn't change anything. The Tories are going to cling on.
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They sound worse than the Tories, if that's even possible. Obviously without the same clout, but still.
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She's off to form a government man, she's clearly going to survive it in the short term.
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I have taken almost no interest in the DUP whatsoever for the entirely of my political life, and in the space of 10 minutes, I now hate them
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They've ruled it out. "Snowball's chance in hell"
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They're opposed to Corbyn on the whole Irish Republican thing by the sounds of it. This is getting stupid now. I keep coming back to how fucking stupid Scottish Labour and the SNP have been here though...
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“For as long as Corbyn leads Labour, we will ensure there’s a Tory PM.” The DUP’s ‘price’ for propping up a new Conservative government will include a promise that there would be no post-Brexit special status for Northern Ireland, the party’s leader in Westminster has confirmed. Nigel Dodds, re-elected as North Belfast MP, said that among their preconditions would be an insistence that there was no separate deal that would effectively keep the region with one foot still inside the EU. The DUP fears that special status after Brexit – a key demand of Sinn Féin – would de-couple Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. The party will return to the House of Commons with 10 seats and in all likelihood will only support a Tory administration, Dodds said.
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She's thrown in with the DUP.
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Hugs all round then
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Minority government and probably a general hope that the DUP will fall into line when needed then. Well, fair enough to her. She looks a right fucking pillock now though.
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I don't mean it aggressively fwiw, it's just a useful label for those with that philosophy. Pre-Corbyn it would have been perfectly acceptable to use it.
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The Blairites will come back. They have to - their objection to Corbyn was that he wouldn't put up a good showing in an election. Now that he has, they've pretty much got to nail their cocks to the mast.
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As has been said earlier, Scottish Labour responsible for that too. "Vote Tory in these areas to stop the SNP". Fucking pillocks. If Labour needs a purge anywhere, it's in their Scottish party. As for the SNP, I think they might be in trouble now.
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I'm sat at work now struggling to stay awake... Glad I endured though. Nice to get to see something positive unfold politically, albeit a measured positive. Just another 6 hours before i can go home...
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Your lads didn't do as badly as I feared in the end. Not amazing, and you did lose Clegg - but you got Cable back.
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It's more of a victory over the PLP than it is over the Tories, but I agree that it's worth being happy about. The project will continue.
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Surely by the same contention though, the Tories mandate (and likely their ability) to do absolutely anything constructive about Brexit just died a death.
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I can't imagine her sticking to that.
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May staying on is the ideal scenario... I think. She'll carry the damaged credibility of the Tories with her and lower the risk of a Tory revival in another election.
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He said he wouldn't. He would welcome everyone back with open arms and hugs, I think he said
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The Blairites starting to call for peace: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/09/wrong-about-jeremy-corbyn-labour-seats-party-unite The battle for Labour's soul may have been won.
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Gloom and CT seem to think their position won't be tenable but yes. I suspect they're going to be a very weak government though.
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I'm prepared to believe that there is no low to which the Tories will not sink.
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Good question. I think, horrifyingly, Farage might try to waltz into the Tory party. Not a soft Brexiter obviously, but he seems keen to get involved again now.
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The variance between them came down to how likely they thought the youth vote was to come out. This is why Momentum and probably also social media, have been game changers. They got young people out in force, by the looks of things.