Rayvin

Aye, well done for being determined to take it to conclusion, and congrats on the outcome. Sorry state of affairs though, as you say.

Exactly.

I voted Labour despite clearly wanting to stay in the EU. I've seen many people reel out this position recently and it just doesn't hold. People aren't voting to try to stop Brexit, they're just resigned to it and trying to get the best outcome they can out of what's left.

Fucking hell, that is a grim article. Did you come across that as a suggested result on Google or something?

Nice read - he's a good lad, Shola. Didn't know Nolan was now managing Notts County mind!

Because pulling back from doing so would undermine 'democracy' and more importantly, would make the Tories look absolutely fucking ridiculous. I agree that all the rational arguments for doing so are there, but the truth is that the Tories simply do not value the 'national good' above being in power.

Stoke.

That's a rather surprising thing to see. While I totally agree with him, Rafa 'demanding' things of Charnley doesn't paint a very good picture.

On the balance of things, I can see your point. However, if they've gone to the trouble of compiling a 70 page report, then have to say, inclined to agree with ewerk. They'll probably sack you whether they have a case or not, irrespective of what you say. You could push for unfair dismissal once they have, and argue the points that way, but still. What was it you did again?

Happy Birthday mate!

If there is a problem, it'll be selling people. We have a large squad and no one is buying any of them.

Is that good?

Agree with this. They do seem to come out of the blue to a degree.

UK. The CBI, basically. And I agree with you, they won't. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/06/uk-business-leaders-to-call-for-indefinite-delay-in-leaving-single-market

Business leaders have now come out and said that we need an indefinite period to conduct Brexit negotiations within. Starting to come around to parky's vision actually. This is all looking so fucking ridiculous now that surely, at some point, some grown up in the Tory party is going to have to come forward and just tell us that this is mental and they're not going to do it.

Aye, you want to see the club being prudent really. The problem these days is trying to establish what prudent even is - certainly it doesn't appear to be anything like what it was a couple of years ago.

He's probably telling the truth there, but he's set the framework that everyone will be operating under. The methodology will be approved by him.

I wish I'd thought of that

I think it is falling, but only because of the advent of zero hours. The gig economy in full swing.

Well yeah, they might do - but to what end? I'm really not sure they'd take any significant following with them. And even if they won a few seats, and it turned out to make a difference - they'd never get away with shoring up the Tories.

Puke Skywalker

They are quite similar at a glance. Do you cycle CT? Or did you find that while metal detecting?

I have mixed feelings on de-selections, but the outcomes aren't necessarily the same as splitting off. It's not like those being deselected would be poised to become a separate political entity. If they did leave to form a new party under that basis, they'd be doing so from a position of weakness and would be little to no threat by the next election (especially if it's another head to head between the main parties, as I think is likely). I have to say, I thought Labour were dead for all I agreed with the strategy. However, May has proven more incompetent than I thought and allowed Corbyn the legitimacy to mould the party. I think Renton highlighted a comment from a Tory insider the other day stating that 'Corbyn is the only thing keeping the Tories together'. That's fear - they really don't want Corbyn in.

It's as unimaginative a name as it is pretentious. It's everything the Tory party stand for.

I read this morning that Rees Mogg has had his sixth child. Named it Sixtus. That's the kind of person we're talking about