Rayvin

Don't know about the stadium. You'd think so. That said, how grim would it be if all this came to pass? It's not just the debt either, it's the ongoing lack of sustainable operation. Not only would they need to find £70m, but they'd need to scale back the playing team even further. I mean look, maybe you're right and this isn't on the immediate horizon, but at some point this is going to happen unless they can get bought or downgrade the playing staff to something in keeping with their means.

I would have thought the latter since presumably the club would exhaust all outside funding options open to it well before this happens. But they're no guarantee to go back up by any stretch, and if what ewerk says about their wages is true, how would any lender be able to look at that and decided that yes, they're a safe investment. Do they have £70m worth of assets though, I wonder.

WTF.

I don't know. You've mentioned putting £20m in but what if it needs more than that? What if Short doesn't have the liquid assets in the same way Ashley doesn't? All I know is that rtg seems spooked by it all of a sudden, and that they spent £1.25m this summer. Which is bobbins.

I think that's because we view administration as the absolute last thing any owner would want to happen. If Short doesn't want to put more money in, why wouldn't he let it go under? Unless he can find funding externally. Having said this, I don't consider it likely either, beyond the fact that a lot of chatter on rtg seems to be focusing on it. Moreover, I think it's FFP that's actually due to fuck them over.

Aye but you're assuming here that they don't enter administration. They'll not go down on merit but it's possible on financial ineptitude.

Nice, thanks.

Have managed to get to 253 but it's getting harder to push upwards now. Also, wtf are you meant to do with glimmer? I have the maximum allowable amount and can't think of any real use for it once I have the ship I want.

I never saw that. Absolutely fucking criminal that such things weren't broadly publicised. £4-5k per annum worse off, per household. Fuck!

@Dr Gloom I wouldn't worry about it, Labour are coming around on this issue. They just need to muddy the waters enough until the Tories drop a bollock big enough to cause serious reservations amongst people. They need the right narrative to flip over, basically. I think they want to flip though.

I think the thing is that if you disregard all of the information about why our club is an objectively superior and higher profile entity, which they do, they won't be able to understand why anyone of Rafa's calibre would be here. And the fact that they guy has embraced the city and its people will make it even worse. So obviously he must be shit. It's the only explanation they're psychologically able to handle.

I don't get it, what's confusing about that. He's basically backing single market access and I assume knows that the only way this can be achieved is by implementing the associated rules. The fact that he's given himself an 'out' in terms of an unfeasible trade agreement is no different to what the Tories are saying about trade deals iyam. I think Labour are doing a 'softly softly' u turn on it.

Aye but I'm starting to hope West Ham win their next game.

Fish, you should know, the Tories are banning that kind of thing. You're going to end up with listeners needing to enter credit card details to hear it at this rate.

Maybe that's part of the thinking. Parish might have looked at that and decided they need to win against Southampton or they'll end up 8 games in with 0 points. Actually makes more sense looked at that way. They don't have time for de Boer to work his system out, they need back to basics pragmatism. Man I hope they go 8 games with 0 points, that'd be hilarious.

Aye fair enough. Just checked a Palace forum and they're universally damning this move, and feel they've been transformed into a laughing stock. So it wasn't fan pressure that did it, I guess.

The company I work for is an exporter... Fuck.

Fucking idiotic club, Palace. No risk of them being in for Rafa? They "stole" Pardew off us after all...

Aye, was a bit surprised by the end boss. As soon as a realised you effectively had infinite supers, that was it. Flaming hammers flying around everywhere I don't think a single moment in the single player campaign was difficult really, which is a bit annoying. That said, I've been wiped out plenty in heroic events when there's only been me and one other guy facing them, so that's something. Also attempted Nightfall but missed that it doesn't matchmake, so had to try it solo. Did not succeed.

Never did the raids in D1 as I came to it late and my social group had moved on. Hoping to give them a try this time.

Apparently 5 threads about administration coming have been deleted in the past hour or so... Are they really that fucked or is it just wishful thinking from me coupled with standard meltdown shit from them. And if it does happen they get a 12 point deduction or something, right?

This is going pretty well so far despite the concerns we had. 6 points from 4 games is totally acceptable IMO. We're not pretty but we're set up for counter attacking and set pieces (I guess) and we're doing it well. Might get found out later in the season but hopefully we'll get over the line.

Was reading that they're yet to win at home in the league this year. And they just played newly promoted Sheffield at home...

You've mostly had me raving about rocket league it's only 10 quid on PS4 anyway.

I'm still surprised that so many of them are prepared to stay here to be perfectly honest. I have one guy at work who has gotten citizenship in the past month too. He s Greek though so I kind of understand it from his point of view. Between a rock and a hard place.