Rayvin

I remember struggling with the season so much, trying to reach the playoffs. And the last time I tried, I won every game by a score exceeding 8-0 Once you win it, you're basically ready IMO.

Are they planning to extend it to the West End or is it just refurbing? EDIT - it's a refurb. Nice, but I would rather the transport links were expanded. Would be better for the whole city.

Comments for the article under the Guardian, beyond depressingly, include: 2008 Britain was living way beyond its means. Reality is Britain is poorer in the world than what we were led to believe. Britain needs to start winning again in Global Markets. --- Yawn more then a year on and you lot still are sad, bitter and twisted. Next we won't be able to enter the Eurovision song contest. Keep up you vile rants accusing over 15 million people of being racists you traitorous turd. --- By the way you might not want one I do I am fed up of paying for rubbish I do not use !! likw overseas aid et al

This bit doesn't get brought up enough IMO. The disaster we're now seeing is fully of their making now. Whatever they can blame on previous administrations, they've had well over long enough to demonstrate that their ideas work, and are simply failing. The only area they appear to have done well in is job creation, but we all know that this is a sham created by zero hours contracts and the gig economy anyway. No competence in their party whatsoever.

Also just noted this: Earnings estimated at below 2008 levels by 2022: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/23/uk-no-earnings-growth-budget-brexit-productivity-ifs This. Is. A. Shambles.

I feel the same way about May every time she attempts to be funny tbh. Makes me die inside.

I thought this was a pretty good speech and response tbh.

It is far better on PC. Have you tried doing the season yet? Or whatever they call it. Like a single player league with bots. I did several runs of that before I finally won a season. and then decided I was good enough to brave online.

Loving the linguistic analysis going on here lads, high brow stuff.

Well, I guess so - but he does at least seem to be trying to tackle the government's handling of the whole thing now. The thing is, I don't believe he's a quick thinker, so a rapid response is perhaps not likely.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/23/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-tories-labour-eu Guardian seem to think he hammered her in PMQs... that the press largely ignore this is kind of my original point.

I mean like the price of everyone's Christmas dinner going through the roof. The public are too stupid for anything else.

True, it's a big gamble.

Yeah maybe. I mean I dunno. To be honest, I'm not being willfully blind to the possibility that he could just be exactly what you're saying. Weak and pro-Brexit. That's definitely a leading possibility.

I feel like it has to be something that kicks the public in the balls to be honest.

Labour has been hammering the government's handling of Brexit since the word go though. In fact, I could argue that they've been doing exactly what you've set out, and that the opinion polls turning against Brexit support this. Would be disingenuous as I don't actually know if it's true, but the argument could be made.

If that's the case then give it time - but now Renton has introduced narratives to the discussion, for the whole thing to fly politically, they'd still need an actual reason to have a second referendum. They still need something bad to happen (like, worse than what we've already seen).

Labour's narrative is anti-establishment - which is also Brexit's. They would have to recast Brexit as an establishment move for any such narrative to work. I don't see how they do that, at the moment. The establishment clearly hate Brexit.

42% who absolutely will vote to secure it. How many of the remaining 58% could we rely on to vote the other way? It needs a proper outcry man.

Ok, someone play out to me what you realistically think would have happened if Corbyn had used yesterday's budget announcement as a springboard to turn the tables on Brexit.

I'm struggling to imagine that even peak era Tony Blair could undo this just through sheer force of will tbh. People are expecting the impossible from Corbyn here. The public was given control of this, so for all that such a scenario should never have happened, we have to accept that it did. Only the public can back us out of this now.

I just don't see this. No one in politics, currently, has the ability or credibility to come out and oppose Brexit successfully. The public needs to turn against it first. Labour could come out and oppose it on principle, which is what you seem to want, but it would be irrelevant because 1 - they would never get into power on that basis and 2 - not getting into power would prevent them from actually being able to do anything useful about it anyway.

I dunno, you seem to think that Corbyn should harness what is basically an anti-establishment backlash by trying to derail it before the public is ready to do so. I think he has his own anti-establishment credentials which he has some traction with, but which need to run alongside Brexit unless an opportunity to recast the latter as an establishment play becomes available. He doesn't have the credibility with the disaffected to take on Brexit head on IMO. The people need to turn against it on their own first.

I'm more into strategy than leadership tbh. I'm also not hugely interested in partisan party politics, I just want the wider geopolitical outcome that prevents the collapse of Western civilisation