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Rafa said he was staying irrespective of who was in control though. Think, as ever, you're worrying needlessly Troops

Sorry I meant an existing state in the Western world that represents a better leader for Western civilisation than the EU.

Feel free to point out an alternative.

Disagree, but respect your opinion. I think the EU is the last best hope of Western civilisation.

You may not want a federalised EU, but I do. Yes to the army, yes to taxes going to Brussels. Adapt and evolve, only way to remain at the top table in the modern world. The alternative is to become a second rate power. Or third rate tbh.

There is simply no robust economic argument for leaving the EU when considered at a national level. There may be individuals who benefit, like Zerosum, but that's it. There is a political reason for leaving it - people want change, no matter how gallingly stupid that change might be. There is a social reason for leaving it - if you believe immigrants are inherently bad people.

@Monkeys Fist Dude, you need to get back on here - they're defiling your legacy with absolute shite

Given Joselu didn't cost half of what you need to pay to get a striker who can kick the ball forwards, that's damning stuff from Rafa Suspect it's more about the losing run though.

Could be pissed off because we've lost 4 on the bounce?

Loving ewerk's optimism though. Moving to 98.9% sure we won't.

I'm holding firm at 99% sure we won't.

I suspect that they'll go back to some manner of centre left sham, meaning we re-run this in 10-15 years. The main thing with Trump was that he was a pressure release. In fact, he's a better pressure release than Brexit because at least he isn't permanent. Would be great to think that the grassroots movement attempting to take over the Democrats will get somewhere, but I'm not hearing a lot about them, and am skeptical they can outmuscle the big money players.

Is that guy well informed about what's happening in the club? No point in panicking about anything here. If it happens, it happens.

No way is he getting a second term like. This is it for the far right, it has to be. Looking like he's going to spend 4 years achieving fuck all though, which is pretty good news.

I think the problem with that though, CT, is that the government demonstrably have no idea what they're doing.

It's just so random to throw it out there with zero context though

What exactly did you do to Stevie

But we should want the border issue resolved first too... We're back to holding a gun to our own heads and threatening to pull the trigger again I see.

I'm not talking about a factual analysis, I'm talking about the inevitability of such things when it comes to this club.

The thing is, Mitro will probably come back, score, get sent off 5 minutes later, and we'll lose 3-1.

A thread complaining that some Sunderland fans are realistic when talking to Newcastle fans: https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/sunderland-fans-kissing-nufc-fans-arses.1404766/

I do, but I'm not familiar with that place.

I don't even understand that one

...yeah, not joking. Sorry! EDIT - tbh, I was told you had to win the 1v4 version...

Noelie with the old skool burn there.