Rayvin

That's the article that 'triggered' me Or more the responses to it..

Neoliberalism has all but destroyed the hopes and aspirations of people under 25 in half of Europe mate... And I've said plainly before that I understand the reasons this happened. And cast little to no judgement on that, aside from where it concerns bigotry. My point now is that they should be turning on this, and they're not - so unless you're saying we need to be tolerant of their weakness concerning admitting their mistake, and I can't for the life of me think why you would feel we should, I don't feel as though our positions are different. I didn't say it was a panacea at all incidentally. All I'm saying is that Britain, logically, looking at what we're faced with, is NOT going to be better off out of it. And that the things people thought they were voting for, do not appear to be deliverable. Take the EU itself out of it for a moment - logically, we're in a fucking stupid position. That's my problem.

I'm prepared to consider arguments from across the spectrum as long as they make sense - there is no longer any logical framework around Brexit though, as far as I can see. It's just a shambles Parky. Whatever it was, or could have been, the Tories have turned it into a clusterfuck of useless effort. The fact that it is a shambolic, irrational action, defended by people too insecure to admit they were wrong, is something that pisses me off And I've been very clear that I'm pro-EU throughout. I've said I would back a Federal EU project many times over. What I am concerned about is the rational pursuit of desirable outcomes and the wider improvements of peoples lives. Which is a million fucking miles away from where we are right now.

I think it's a solid console tbh. Needs more games but aside from that I'm very happy with it.

You can make multiplayer work on the portable version of the same Just saying.

I really fucking hope you're right about all this CT. Fucking truly I do.

Well it's kept them in power and distracted from their generally farcical handling of the economy. Long term I don't think it helps them but it seems to be for now.

The main focus of my ire was not you, but in fairness, you were on here a couple of days ago saying we should cancel the whole thing if we couldn't get a good outcome. If that remains your position, I expect to see you admitting you were wrong in due course, and making clear that you will, if given the opportunity, vote against this lunacy. I don't give a shit if people have been wrong about something, I'm wrong all the fucking time (ask ewerk). What bothers me is refusing to acknowledge it. If you need more time to be able to do this, fine, but one way or another you will come to this conclusion.

That sure as fuck doesn't look like where we're heading CT. It looks like we're going to be sold some manner of new initiative, knowing the Tories quite possible called something like "The Market Single and the Union of Customs" which will be totally different to the Single Market and Customs Union *cough* but will allow us to do everything as we had done previously, somehow. While throwing away all decision making powers. And the only beneficiary of this in any real sense, will be the Tory party.

Actually fucking furious after the comments under that article. Willful self delusion. That's all it is now for the Brexit contingent. I'm prepared to fight the corner of anyone who has some meaningful concerns or points to make, but that's not what this is about now for most of them. They're just terrified of having been wrong and too insecure to own it.

I've just been reading an article in the Guardian where some Dutch journalist has painted a very frank picture of Britain being shown to be, effectively, the EU's bitch now. And he's dead right. But the comments under it man, I assume from displaced Torygraph readers, basically sticking their fingers in their ears, all saying "Well if you're going to be mean about it, then fuck you, I'm glad we're leaving". Just... what the fuck man. Why are people not waking up to this?

I've been hugely tolerant of, and sympathetic to, the reasons this happened - but the longer this has gone on, and the more clear it is that nothing anyone thought they were fucking voting for is deliverable, the more I'm seeing the people who voted for it dig their heels in and carry on as if its all going to be ok, just because they don't want to admit they were so easily duped. So my tolerance ends there. If you're wrong about something you fucking own it, you don't carry on like spoiled children clutching at every imaginable straw and lashing out at everyone else for your own fuck up.

Why have we let people who know fuck all about anything, inflict this farce on the country?

I fucking loathe Boris Johnson.

Aye this is it. Electoral suicide for the Tories though, they need to spin it in their favour now so that it looks like they're delivering something useful.

I haven't tbf, and I don't want to shatter any such rose tinted imagery That game blew my fucking mind and I'm happy with it being untouchable in my head

All Caulkin knows is that they had dinner. Which is the same as us

Well there you go then. Don't read too much into it is all I'm saying.

I'd be happy to work on the basis of some kind of opt-in tax system. The only problem then is that theoretically, the entire country could 'opt in', meaning we get freedom of movement for Brits without conceding the same to EU citizens in the UK.

People at this level take any excuse to wine and dine on company money, don't read too much into it

FFS. They may as well fucking roll that out to everyone then, given that the Tories said it will be 'exactly the same, everywhere'. What is the actual fucking point of any of this now?

Was OoT not ostensibly the first 'open world' style game ever made? There'd been some other free to move about in 3D games but they were still limited by various level based mechanics in a way that I'm not sure OoT ever insisted upon. I might be thinking of it too kindly as, save for the NES, the N64 was the first serious games console I ever owned - and Zelda was the first game I ever had. And fuck me, what a game to open with. No wonder I'm still hooked on the fucking things 20 years on...

Are we celebrating the fact that they had dinner then? Not sure that's any indication she's going to stump up another £50m...

Deserved IMO. Was thinking about starting it again over the weekend in fact. As a long time Zelda enthusiast, I have to say it's the best one they've ever made by a long shot, even correcting for graphics improvements etc. Has it impacted the gaming world as significantly as OoT? No. Nothing ever will in my view. But in terms of the level of achievement for one game, it's as near to perfect as you could hope for from Zelda. I suspect the Switch will have another Zelda title on it within its lifespan, and they could absolutely use the same background engine for it. I would happily have a Majora's Mask style follow up to BOTW.

Theyll get all that onto the switch in the end though IMO. That said you can probably pick up a Wii u for a tenner these days.