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He was truly a sight to behold that day.

The thing is though, gearing is actually a financially sound strategy. A bit awkward for PCP maybe given that they don't actually own the club yet, but if they can get a better return on £50m by investing it in a high yield business or stock, than they would lose by agreeing to an external loan for NUFC, then they would/should do it. This is why loads of big companies take on debt. Their own money works harder for them elsewhere. That said, maybe it's less appealing in football due to the volatility of what happens to club incomes due to relegations etc.

I was thinking more that we may need to spend a higher amount than £30m tbh.

Yeah but for the sake of ensuring safety, it's probably worth it. Ashley has made out that his constraint is available funds on a personal basis - but a high interest rate isn't worth getting relegated over. Hard to imagine Stavely being put off by it either.

I don't see why we can't just get an external loan tbh - for all his talk about not having available income, what drawback would there be to a bit of external gearing?

So after all the optimism of the other day, we're back where we started again Impressive stuff.

Nice! Honestly mate, the big challenge initially is just getting to grips with what your car can do versus where the ball is going. If you've got that down you're most of the way there.

Aye, tbf, I said the same thing. Not fraud, but vastly overrated. Wrong again, it seems!

Just symbolic though, surely? The muslim world isn't going to initiate some manner of crusade over this.

As far as I can tell, it's a role created specifically for Thomas Muller.

Can't believe we're not talking about the addition of a Raumdeuter... so obviously what we're crying out for.

Pointless grandstanding by everyone involved though.

Everything about Davis' face there is screaming "I am a pillock". It's beyond hopeless, this negotiation.

Yep. The narratives are the fundamental things now - which is perhaps generally always the case when you leave the middle ground and head into ideological territory. Not just in the UK though, fwiw.

So they have a lot of red painted maps then.

Do you suppose that the reports do exist, and the government is just chancing getting away with not revealing it...? It would give the Tories the ability to make them work to their advantage.

That does seem to be the case.

They don't matter, I suppose, because they would be nothing but politically damaging for the whole thing. Starting to agree that we're fucked here. We need the government to fall apart basically now - each day that May staggers on, is another day lost for the whole project. We are going to Brexit, and it is going to be a shambles.

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That's why we need a sector by sector assessment though. To be able to weigh up which sectors will be sacrificed and which will be supported. We need to maximise what we can. Can a good trade deal really be agreed with just a general overview approach? It feels like that's where the government is driving from...

You would hope that a series of desired outcomes would be debated in parliament and then voted upon, as we went into negotiations. But given that no impact reports have been carried out, we have no information upon which to base our desired outcomes. Least competent British government of all time?

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I don't remember tbh. If it helps, I didn't learn to aerial until about 500 hours in. The thing is, the game has evolved since I started. Nowadays it looks like new players have to have some command of aerials. Back when I started, you really didn't.