Rayvin

Ah of course, so that future generations of women can more easily imagine themselves able to ruin the lives of vast swathes of the country. Feminism literally doesn't give a shit about anything other than appearances.

But why... and from a lib dem...

Still genuinely curious as to what it was Jenas gave us... I might have to look up a highlight reel.

Agree tbh, I like Shearer - although that might just be because I'm biased as fuck.

What is it he supposedly did well?

Is it just me, or was Jenas just never actually that good?

That is absolutely not the best outcome.

My dad is an Everton fan and as far as i can recall, his view for the past 20 years is that they have been consistently shite, and that he wished he didn't support them He follows Carlisle as well in order to cheer him up a bit, which i think says it all...

Being honest though, given the current state of Sunderland, I'm not convinced any of them would be stupid enough to come over here on the windup at the minute. Maybe once they're an established League One side and have stopped the freefall, but until then it's hard to imagine. We've not had one for months now.

Don't see us getting anything from this whatsoever.

What is it that Henderson is actually supposed to be good at? Is he a good passer, good at breaking up play?

Having been in the same position as your gaffer before, I can say with some confidence that he doesn't give a shit if people are on netflix or not apart from if it is impacting his numbers. If he has to deal with it, it becomes a formal disciplinary procedure, taking time and effort. However, now that you've raised it, he can't turn a blind eye really - if people know it's ok for this kid, they might all start doing it. And then his numbers might well be impacted. You've given him a headache, basically

Who calls the fucking police because KFC have run out of chicken. Who the fuck is that dense?

Either they're just really shit, in which case they're going to go down come what may - or they're an unmotivated group of tossers, in which case there's a slim chance that they might wake up and pull themselves out of it. I can't decide which one I think it is tbh. Most of them were PL players for some time (albeit bad ones), so I could almost believe it's the second one. Even if it is though, there's no guarantee that they will have any kind of awakening.

...I had totally forgotten Anita ever existed.

Aye, was looking at the league tables generally and did a double take when I saw Coventry midtable in League 2. I know they've had all kinds of shit going on in the background but even so. Heaven forbid it ever happens to us. And realistically, I'd be amazed if it happened to Sunderland as well - 46k seater stadium in League 1 is bad though...

Looking seriously dangerous now. Hull are consistently giving them a lifeline though. Tbh, what the fuck happened to Hull anyway? As dire and ridiculous as Sunderland's situation is, something almost as fucking grim must be happening down the road.

Carlisle are midtable in L2, so no. Shrewsbury will be a league above them though!

I think as a city, Sunderland is a place that is devoid of hope generally. No surprise that they accept their lot in football as they accept their lot in life.

Aye stuff like that they can resolve without having to tackle the main issue, and it would make a significant difference. On the wider issue, I don't think it'll ever happen.

It'll just go underground though - then you'll have organised crime in total control of gun ownership. Prohibition all over again surely? They might need a widespread cultural shift against guns first tbh... really not sure what the answer is. And I don't see that cultural shift coming at all.

There's a thread on RTG at the moment trying to determine when things went wrong - and it's framed as if it could only either have been with Moyes or Grayson. A few of them seem astute enough to look further back, with Di Fanti being the true source it seems (rubbish recruitment genuinely does seem to have been their achilles heel). Moyes is proving with West ham that he has enough about him to keep a club up if given the resources. Grayson wasn't given a chance in hell really, same for Coleman (not that either are very good). What gets me though is the crazed belief some of them have that they were going to really kick on under Allardyce of all people. As if he wasn't desperately looking for a way out when England came calling...

Aye true - I doubt the club really considered this possible. I would think so - plus Sunderland may very well want to offload them anyway.

Probably not but if they go down again, would they not get another 40% cut or something. With one notable exception.

Aye but have they been looking around for clubs at the bottom end of the championship? Probably not, but I suspect they'd take that over League 1 next season.