Rayvin

So Labour has resumed tearing itself apart over anti-semitism then. Margaret Hodge can fuck off, I'm not even going to pay attention to this bullshit anymore. What the fuck happened to this country.

I mean, those Labour MPs just voted to avoid a GE that Labour could feasibly have won.

What's the point anymore, seriously. Incompetence is going to win.

FFS man, can we just agree that no one fucking cares whether the Tories implemented it or Labour did - if the situation is fucking shit it needs to be sorted out! The only party that are currently capable of doing anything about it are the motherfucking Tories. And they've had 8 fucking years CT, to reverse anything they didn't like. Having said that, the stats you're providing look ok to me. I mean it's still pre-Brexit so who knows what'll happen there, but I'm not really in a position to argue with those figures.

Does the public really need convincing anymore though?

So you think it's more delaying of the inevitable. It really is shambolic though, and it is ludicrous that Corbyn hasn't called for the government to push back for a GE. There should be votes of no confidence all over the place.

I mean it does back them out of Brexit while being able to blame the very people most responsible for hard Brexit...

There's no chance that this is the government's plan, is there...?

I see. I've never been out on the streets campaigning for anything in my life, but if we get back to a second referendum with a straight 'in/out' vote, I'll be out in the fucking streets campaigning for Remain. If JRM manages to deliver that option back to us, we have to take it.

Does that mean we might go straight back to a direct in/out vote?

Appreciated, but ffs.

I have found that I'm in a blinding rage about this today, and I'm not actually 100% sure it's merited. Is Brexit going to fall apart or have we basically just secured 'No Deal'.

The Code of Good Practice for Referendums, put together by the Venice Commission, specifically states that in the case of unlawful funding, the referendum result must be annulled. I believe that all EU members are also members of the Venice Commission. See section 3.3: "National rules on both public and private funding of political parties and election campaigns must be applicable to referendum campaigns (point II.3.4.a). As in the case of elections, funding must be transparent, particularly when it comes to campaign accounts. In the event of a failure to abide by the statutory requirements, for instance if the cap on spending is exceeded by a significant margin, the vote must be annulled." http://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/default.aspx?pdffile=cdl-ad(2007)008-e

What's this shit about the Leave Campaign having conducted illegal activity in the run up to the damned day as well? Brexit is a full on suicide bomber of an event now. Determined to inflict maximum damage even as it starts to explode.

Cable didnt turn up because apparently, in a time where we have a hung parliament and an obvious Tory rebellion, he didnt think it would be a close vote, even though it is his party's -only- issue. The man is a fucking charlatan. The Lib Dems can get fucked.

Even more pathetic given that Labour by definition should be for jobs. Although for the leadership of the apparently pro-EU party in this country to simply not bother turning up is really something.

Abstaining? Are you serious? The Lib Dems can officially get fucked then. Waste of space party with sackless leadership. So we get hard Brexit very literally because our politicians are a total and utter shambles. This isn't fucking good enough.

Those Labour MPs need to be deselected at the first opportunity including fucking Corbyn if he was one of them. This is too serious now for the gameplaying and bullshit.

Who fucking voted for No Deal? Who??

In that case we need the government to collapse. And we need to make sure that 'Remain' is on the ballot.

Why though, its literally the only thing that could save her at this point.

So this means May is coming down on the side of hard Brexit after her plan was shot down from all sides?

Fair tbh.

Can't say i really rated Henderson either. Apart from one decent forward pass, what did he do? Possibly reacting to the Croatia game here but when their goal went in our midfield became non-existent. He doesn't impose himself on games nor, as far as i can tell, does he do anything hugely noteworthy. Same as he is with Liverpool...?