Rayvin

What the actual fuck

That's odd... he fucking loved Twitter. Hopefully he's ok.

The rebate and all our advantages are already off the table now, even if we turn around and head back in pre-Brexit, right? It's so fucking stupid, it really is. As if we're not going to be back there in 20 years.

Yeah... depressing state of affairs really. The best we can hope I guess is that Brexit more or less falls apart of its own accord. I started wondering the other day, what the minimum time frame would be for us to leave, realise it's fucking shit, and decide to go back in again. Obviously assuming we were even allowed.

Yeah but the membership didn't. This is what I don't get about Corbyn, and is probably the source of most of my disappointment with him - it's not like it would be hard for him to just rock up one day, point to the membership (and now, 2:1, even the unions) and back a second referendum. I mean his power base can't really argue that one without hamstringing the party apart more effectively than the Blairites have been trying to do. Even if he is a Brexiteer, he should have the vision to see that if Labour u-turned, even now, they'd have all the ammunition they needed to take the Tories on properly - and that he will have a better chance to enact his program as a result.

If the umpire interpreted the rules correctly she can get to fuck IMO. If he isn't consistent in other games, then he needs to be taken to task for those, not the one where he applies them correctly.

Different topic, but I came across this post in the Guardian by a commenter who was formerly a LibDem member - obviously I agree with the sentiments: Full disclosure - I was a Lib Dem member for 29 years. I helped set up the SDP and worked on the merger with the Liberals. I can say with a degree of certainty but with a heavy heart that there is no room left in British politics for the Lib Dems and it is all their own fault. I left the Lib Dems on the day the Coalition Agreement was signed and from that point on the Lib Dems were finished. Our special sauce was the "none of the above vote". The minute we were in bed with the Tories we were no longer the radical free thinkers of the Kennedy era. We were just a temporary brake on a Tory government which we should never have trusted. Nick Clegg has a great deal to answer for. The current Lib Dem brand of reasonableness is out of tune with the times. Corporatism and right wing nationalism requires more radical opposition and sensible moderation does not cut any ice. Only the Labour Party can get this country out of the mess it is in. In some respects they are doing a good job of changing the agenda away from austerity and pandering to big business. In others they are hamstrung by a leader more interested in Gaza than Gateshead. There is no room for the Lib Dems or any cobbled together centre party - especially one run by Chuka Ummuna and Tony Blair.

I still think the bigger issue is the collision of cultures between Islam and the West rather than the Poles - although frankly I don't know, so I could be entirely wrong. I would say you develop a narrative attacking another group. A group that can take it, maybe. The rich perhaps... EDIT - even better, corporations - no human face to them.

So 17.6% in the end. First election since they let in 160k asylum seekers, more than any other EU country. Tbh, that doesn't seem like such a big deal to me but i guess Sweden is a smaller country, so proportionally it's a bigger issue. The consistency of these far right gains in Europe should be telling us something, and it continues to be dismaying that the left and centre refuse to answer it with anything other than lipservice.

Indeed. In fact the stifling of UKIP is pretty much the only good thing about FPTP. On the other hand, the Tories gave them what they wanted anyway.

Renton seems to have been in an email time capsule from the late 90s. Idk if he can handle gmail as an out and out email service yet. His head might explode.

I vote we don't let the fascists into power this time around. Controversial maybe but y'know...

Looking kind of shakey in Sweden atm... 19% for the far right. At some point you would think that Europe in general needs to respond to this with a narrative sea change or something...

Gmail works fine with my Outlook...?

Yes? This is what most people do.

I mean, we are fairly brutal to newcomers mind :lol:

@Happy Face

I dont see it as a great hardship. And it would impact his business. The staff get paid either way in the end.

I read your signature from time to time and chuckle to myself about how that dumbass feels now Shit town and League One.

I know but... I did say "I'm curious why Owen Smith etc etc..." I acknowledge they're two different things, but his attempts to conflate the two are why I called him a cunt.

Well yeah at this point we have to hope that we get someone with a similar vision to Corbyn (possibly a little more globalist for my tastes) who isn't a fucking nugget. Thornberry would be my choice at present. This stuff isn't going to force him out though. I mean if May can get away with the horror show she's presided over, there's no chance this shit is going to take Corbyn down.

Not sure it would bother me remotely tbh. Better counting pennies than putting stock out... I mean they're paid either way.

That's... that's a brave fucking statement. Lots of them calling him out on it, although you'd imagine that's for PR purposes rather than principles.

Apart from by Owen Smith, in that tweet.

Tbf, if I thought this nonsense had the slightest chance of unseating Corbyn, I'd actually be prepared to go along with it. But it doesn't. It's not washing with the membership, so it's a total waste of time except to harm Labour's chances in any manner of election.