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But why would he do that and make the government look like heroes?

Surely this fails Labour's 6 tests or whatever it was. And the Tories are pulling it apart as well. It'll never get through on that basis...

What happens when it doesn't get through parliament?

It's not like he did it for free though, he's been well fucking paid. Admittedly I'm tempted to say that 5m isn't a lot for them or for him, but if that's the case they should just buy him a car or a yacht or something rather than a cash bonus. I guess he has done a good job either way.

I guarantee some Americans will believe this.

A good idea tbh. Federalise while we're outside the EU and get all of that shit out of the way, and then permit our re-entry a few years later as a new state in the union. Makes me think the whole debacle might be planned tbh.

I thought this bit was particularly poignant vis-a-vis Brexit as well. "Trump and a lot of the people in his thrall are, it seems safe to say, gone. They will continue to walk among us—Trump will be in a golf cart—but they will never come back. They are somewhere else. There is nothing they are not prepared to believe if the right people say it; they will choose the right lie over any truth not just without regret but with pride."

What the actual fuck is wrong with that lad I mean ffs.

What does offend you about him then? I guess not his Brexit stance.

Starmer would walk a leadership bid on this platform IMO.

I genuinely think there would be political fallout to Labour going in strong on remain. Also, that position has done the Lib Dems no favours at all. I mean the problem here is that we'll never know, but im not convinced at all that the usual suspects from Labour, who have been suspiciously quiet themselves throughout this, Blair aside, would have made a blind bit of difference. Corbyn may well have played this in such a way that he wins power even if he can't stop Brexit. That's winning power with a "radical left wing agenda". No fucker else in Labour was going to achieve that. "As guilty as anyone" give over. You're too quick to overlook the litany of failures from centrist politicians that literally made this happen.

Something to do with kicking up a bigger fuss about the whole thing apparently. I think it's a political non starter though - letting the Tories hang themselves was the only way to go once a parliamentary vote was approved.

If Labour do manage to force a second vote and reverse Brexit, the "I told you so" posts from me will make CT's contributions look downright tolerable. Admittedly i think if it does break that way itll be an opportunism thing rather than strategic, but I'm not going to let that stand in the way of my gloating if the chances comes up.

He's still an MP isn't he? Just left the cabinet.

Oh. Sorry then, hadn't thought that one through for its local implications. How will it be bad for you? I was thinking it makes the deal being voted down more likely is all.

I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching this government come apart at the seams. Fingers crossed Arlene digs her heels in.

Yep, looks a decent night for the progressives. Might be some steam in the Corbynite style left yet.

Lost the house so presumably going to be investigated properly now at best, and at worst will find it far more difficult to do anything. Great victory apparently though.

I actually would have offered the printing bit at least but as I said, i left the business over the summer. Plenty of other printers around though.

You can get a service to do what you're talking about to a professional standard - that's why vanity publishing exists. But it'll cost a few hundred easily. Just getting them printed and bound - for 10 copies - isn't going to break the bank. But as ewerk says you need the format to be right. It can be a bit of a ballache to be quite honest. Check out a company called lightningsource. They print books for big publishers on demand, but i think their model goes all the way down to a few copies for the individual buyer. They should have info on what the files need to look like, as well as an online quoting tool.

I'm a publisher by trade. I basically ran an academic publisher up until the summer, all aspects of production, editorial, sales etc. Turned over about 5m a year so big enough to really know the industry but small enough that i had to understand every part of the process.

I dont think what you're saying is totally stupid if you're looking at this from an entirely rational perspective - but I'm not sure it would be possible for us to be a founding member even if Ashley suddenly did start throwing money around. We dont have the stature. Also, does Ashley have the 5 or 600m that would be required to do this anyway?

Just re-reading your post, the bit about enough copies for grandkids - is the book formatted and basically print ready or do you need it to go through editorial too? If its just print you can probably get 10 copies made for about 50 quid at a printer. If it needs editing you're up into the hundreds depending on the length.

There are different kinds of publisher you can look at. Vanity publishing is what Gemmill describes - you pay them up front and they publish the work, edit it, get an ISBN etc. It's not a scam IMO, it just does what it says on the tin. They won't market the book though so ultimately you'll be left to do that yourself. Conventional publishers, realistically, are unlikely to take on the book. They assess everything based on the profit making potential of the work and would be more inclined to publish if you can demonstrate a large potential market for it, maybe preorders already made, or if you have books published with successful sales numbers in the past. I wouldn't even waste your time looking into these. By far and away the best bet for getting started is Amazon. Publish through them as an ebook. They won't market it but at least they won't charge you up front for any costs. They take 30% of the sales price as long as you keep it under a tenner, and i think 50% if you go higher. If you need them to print physical books for the sales it'll cost more again. It's worth keeping in mind that non-academic publishers are being squeezed really hard these days. For a fiction book that is priced at £10, retailers will take 60%, producing the book itself will be about £2, and then the publisher has to cover all of its overheads and editorial work for that particular book in the remaining £2. And make a profit. So believe me when i say that they will only take on books that are basically guaranteed to sell thousands of copies.

Does this mean CT was right