Rayvin

Umunna is right that politics is broken, but is he really the man to turn it around? Does he actually think that 'a new party' will somehow fix this? Might end up being another step towards PR though, I guess.

Reading what they're saying mind... its all total shite so far. "The world is more complicated that oppressors and oppressed". Aye it may well be, but that's still a big fucking part of it. Not that you would expect any middle of the road MPs to know that. Getting very clear reminders of why the centre has had its ass handed to it at every turn over the past few years. Grim to think this delusional nonsense is once again 'my team' ...

If they all continue to vote the right way then it doesn't even matter. Mostly symbolic. I dont see any route for them back into serious power from here though. Maybe they hope to pick up a few others.

I would have been appalled by this some time ago but honestly don't see what choice Corbyn is leaving anyone on the Remain side now.

An observation - a few years back, Essembee was ridiculed on here (and indeed accused of being a mackem) such was his devotion to criticism of Sunderland and his pulling up of fairly irrational points to throw at them. I mean we all liked a dig but there were limits. These days, I would venture that Essembee is an almost respected member of the community in terms of his contributions (Sorry Essembee, but you can't have not been aware of this perception). Is this because he has raised his game as a poster? No, I don't think so. It's because Sunderland have lowered themselves to the points where the 'limits' have expanded, and now even the crazy shit Essembee comes out with seems acceptable when put alongside paedo players, consecutive relegations, spending millions on players who don't play for them, an inability to fill their seats with anything other than excrement, and hugely delusional visions of where they are as a club compared to the reality of their situation. Sunderland have become the club Essembee always believed they were. He's like some kind of mad bastard prophet.

Ok so, what does today's fiasco mean for Brexit? Any ideas? May is fucked. That one looks solidly predictable.

It's hilarious that this is actually his position

I really hope CT has the stones to come back here, hold his hands up and say he was fucking wrong. I mean it's going to be impossible to have any respect for him otherwise (I know). This has been such a calamitous shit show from start to finish, and the Tories have been and remain a disgrace - as everyone has said for years.

He's been conspicuously absent for a while now. You just know that if May gets her deal through he'll be all over the place again.

Is none of this being reported in the leave newspapers? I mean i assume it isnt but how can even the Mail be so irresponsible...

He should have given it up assuming he was a fit and healthy youngster - but you can be damn well sure he now won't next time Not that he likely would've anyway.

Think I'm with Quiff on that. Shaming people into giving up their seat isn't on really I once had a woman (non pregnant, about my age + maybe 5) try to shame me into giving up my seat on a train after an 8 hour day in retail on my feet. No fucking way. Having said that, i always give up seats to old people and tbh if it's a nearly full bus or train I'll just stand anyway for short runs.

Bingo. Although surely any attempt to interfere would be neocolonialist. So they're damned either way IMO.

I love how he has basically accepted everything Stevie just said as true and resorted to attacks on the basis of fucking benefits You're thinking of Sunderland mate, Newcastle is middle class as fuck

Just take it on trust mate, that he is not running the club 'as a business' at least in terms of what you think that means. He takes money out of the club, has tanked our commercial revenue, and risks relegation almost every season by failing to invest, which costs him more in the long run. He's a fucking pillock.

I'm confused, why are there so many Wolves fans posting here? It's starting to feel like this game is really important to them or something. And I'm not entirely sure why that would be. This is pretty much how Newcastle fans will see the various results options, for all the Wolves fans: A loss - Fuck you Mike Ashley A draw - Meh + Fuck you Mike Ashley A narrow win - Ah that's nice + Fuck you Mike Ashley A big win - this team man + Fuck you Mike Ashley None of our responses will have anything to do with you guys - we're having our own existential crisis as a club and we really don't give a shit about everyone else at this point. You're just 'the opposition' on Monday. Sorry.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/08/japan-seeking-big-concessions-from-britain-in-trade-talks-eu-brexit Japan moving to try and get hold of bigger concessions from the UK than they did from the EU, because they can see we're weak as fuck. @Christmas Tree @zerosum This is what we mean with the trade deal stuff. We could have had a better arrangement with Japan, inside the EU.

Aye but he didn't get eviscerated on there TT is always such a welcoming community

She's definitely the "in" left winger at the moment but I'd be surprised if she was the first person saying stuff like this. However, the Democrats were funded through lobbyists too, so it's possible that a fringe position (that this is unacceptable) is becoming more visible.

Also possible. But why did he even need the racial element of it? If it's made up bollocks, why not just say he went down to the pub and waited for anyone to start on him?

Yeah idk about this one. I've watched the SJWs hop up and down with rage about totally stupid shit before but this one I kinda get it. I mean it's not even liked he hoped he would find the guy - he assigned the sins of one black guy to -all- black guys, and wanted to kill one of them. The only possible implication being that if he managed to do this, it would restore the 'pride' of white people somehow. Moreover, he specifically asked the race of the attacker signalling that this would be an important component for him. Fair enough he's held his hands up and admitted it was wrong but that's the bare fucking minimum. It's a totally abhorrent way of thinking. And I like the guy in general but fucking hell..

The thing i find immensely frustrating about the GE defeat is they'll come out afterwards saying things like "we didn't appreciate the strength of feeling that people in our membership had for remaining" or something that suggests they're totally out of touch with reality or liars.

Yep I resigned also. I sent an email advising them it was due to their Brexit stance and got a generic bullshit email back which didn't mention it once.

Do we have rules..?

We beat Man City and people start predicting wins against spurs Got to love football.