Rayvin

I don't understand why they're drawing this many games They should be winning 3-0 or 4-0 on a regular basis. Even if they go up, can they realistically claim to have 'enjoyed' the season?

Indeed. It's hard to argue that Blair and, to a lesser extent Brown, weren't the last of their kind in terms of true British statesmen.

I think one thing that has become very clear is that MPs are really not very intelligent people.

I really hope this is true but they just never die, man. They are political cockroaches.

About me personally? Indeed, they won't care. But I was pretty diehard in my support for Labour, and if i can get to this point then it's fair to say I won't be the only one.

What do they have to do with my willingness to sacrifice Labour for remaining in the EU though? My point was that if Labour don't back PV2, I'll abandon them.

Euro Elections it is then. And really, at this point, not reason not to proceed with a referendum. Extension until March 2020 on the cards unless the UK can approve the WA in the meantime. I don't think May is begging for any extension though, she's begging for the one that saves the Tory party. That's the one the EU will deny her. And honestly, I think that without the Cooper bill, it's possible she might have gone for no deal instead. It's a battle won for the Remainers.

I thought they were called Change whatever now..?

Honestly think most of these people are now just thinking about their political careers and the future of their parties. It's a politically viable option rather than a pragmatically viable one. Stupid though because I am personally absolutely prepared to sacrifice Labour to keep us in the EU. I doubt I'm alone.

I can't work out if it's satisfying or depressing that if he'd spend that on us we'd be challenging the top 6 and worth a lot more in any sale.

The Tories have allowed, via incompetence and a leadership vacuum that has spanned a decade, the extreme fringes of society to come to the fore with credibility. I include Corbyn in this to a degree as a consequence in the same way as the ERG. They have credibility because what we have from the 'establishment' is an utter shambles.

That should be a slogan for Remain actually. Something like "look, even if you voted leave, look at the people we have to deliver it. Come on man, it's not gonna be good. It's not your fault they're useless, it's not our fault, but let's just forget it and move on, eh?"

Is that enough time for PV2? Hammond looks like he's desperate to come out for it.

Anyone have any idea which way this is going to go yet?

Why Lascelles?

Agreed. Sounds like it's about to kick off though - Mark Francois is tabling a vote of no confidence in May. 80 Tories behind it. They're getting around the 'once every 12 months' bit by calling it an indicative vote of no confidence...

What kind of level of team do you think he would end up with in Spain?

Are we really going to settle on a customs union...

Does Perez want to leave? For where?

Yeah they either didn't exist in Labour pre-Corbyn, or they were being fervently cracked down on by Ed Miliband.

I agree it's been quiet on this for a while but it was never solely about the front pages. There were just a plethora of articles across many papers. Anyway, I'm not the only one who thought it so I'm satisfied that I'm not just paranoid. I suppose with a GE around the corner we'll see more about it again. EDIT - incidentally, I think that when Corbyn leaves and we go back to a more centrist candidate, all the antisemites will go with him, especially since they all joined when he became leader.

Holy shit. That is cringeworthy.

To the surprise of no one, talks between Labour and the Tories have failed. Now we move on to government backed indicative votes which will, also, fail. PV2 miles away again, IMO. Only real chance of it was if Labour stitched it onto the WA.

The thing for me is that nothing that has happened since the 2016 referendum should have swung any remainers over to leave, with the possible of exception of those who feel the government should honour the original vote. I can't really believe there are too many of those. There -should- be plenty of leavers who, even if they don't want to stay in the EU, won't want TM's deal. Plus we have the extra 2 million young people + however many old people have died since. You're right, we need to mobilise them, but surely, surely we can manage that. Surely.

I don't know about this - there's a larger number of diehard remainers than diehard leavers, it would seem. Just compare the petitions.