Rayvin

It does indeed seem to be, even the posts he makes with links to back up his claims. The Tory one seems to have quite a few stories. Also there's no number of search results shown, did he manually count them?

Ok so - the first one tries to make a point about Brexit that I could have had time for, but it turns out it's all anecdotal with no supporting evidence, so I'm disregarding it. Also stress that remain isn't a left wing principle, it's a centrist principle. Second one the same, with the added point that the chap making the claims offers no insight into why the public voted the way it did whatsoever. The Sun, shockingly, actually makes a claim with some supporting evidence - so fair enough the Sun. Still disagree but at least there's an argument to be had about it. Comedy I rather fancy isn't a politically motivated line so much as a market based analysis line.

I've accepted this line for some time, but it's becoming clear to me that actually, those saying it on the right wing are absolute fruitcakes who struggle to summon up a rational thought more than once or twice per day. They "opinion" isn't worth the same as someone who isn't a total cretin. As such, I think we may now be reaching a point where it would be useful to actually see the BBC demonstrating any semblance of pro-left bias. Because the pro-right bias, as is often pointed out, is fairly hard to ignore.

I suppose it depends. Do they, elsewhere, call people murderers - instead of people convicted of murder. Or terrorists instead of 'people who committed acts of terror'? If they're consistent, I'll happily accept that argument.

@Dr Gloom

That Gove interview though. I don't understand how we've got to the point where this utter shambles is acceptable now. I actually miss Cameron's Tory party, something I could never have believed a few years ago. The Tories are genuinely Trumpian.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-concerns-brexit-general-election-boris-johnson-corbyn-poll-a9211196.html NHS now a bigger issue for voters than Brexit.

Oh for fucks sake, seriously? The utter bastards. I've tried to be way more restrained on the press in recent months but seriously this is getting ridiculous now.

Yep, 3 weeks before the last chance we get to save the country from becoming an absolute hellhole. And honestly, I'm not even sure I mean Brexit anymore. I'm starting to think that even as bad as leaving the EU might be, the Tories are now so openly shitting on poor people that they may in fact be worse than Brexit all on their own.

The Tories have released a site titled "labourmanifesto.co.uk" full of disinformation about Labour's manifesto, and are paying for it to appear high up Google's search results as people look for the actual thing. They've absolutely gone full Trump now. It's shameless. They've decided that in general, the population of the country is as cynical and coldhearted as they are, and they're just going for it.

Ultimately this is the consequence of the Lib Dems promising things that they know they'll never have to deliver on. Nothing new really. Labour have to be far more robust.

Bloody hell. I mean, that's some detailed, savage interviewing. That guy on the phone is relentless. I find myself wishing he would turn onto the Tories as well.

His answer doesn't make sense. It's like he thinks she was accusing him of being an anti-semite rather than Labour. Clearly there is anti-semitism in the Labour Party and for him to simply deny it is bizarre. But becoming defensive and seeing it as a personal attack is the best suggestion I have to rationalise his answer.

No I agree on that, Corbyn is frustratingly civilised. However, I did notice after the fact that amongst the unsure voters, Corbyn won that debate handily. 60:40. That's the only group we stand any chance of making a play for. EDIT: source

It's also rare that an opposition party has had to face an issue that transcends regular politics and because of which, no matter what he says short of becoming a more right wing extreme version of the leading party, he will not be able to win over any of the 46% of the country who want it.

Fair enough then I suppose. At least I can see why the Tories wanted it down, and why the BBC felt compelled to do it. I still think the bigger the racket Momentum makes about the whole thing, the better.

Could that not have simply been edited in the tweet itself? I don't use twitter so I'm not sure of the editing functions.

It wasn't a lie when they posted it unless the BBC actually announced beforehand what was going on. In fairness to Momentum, if they don't call out the BBC for being biased, there is nothing to combat the right doing it, which only makes their arguments seem true. Also, I'm curious, what exactly did they 'fix' about the video. Unless it was misrepresenting her in some way, which I would understand a correction for, I'm struggling to think of any good reason to take it down and re-post it.

1. Fight fire with fire. 2. Did the BBC at any point make that clear, prior to taking it down? 3. Who cares, it's made the video even more visible.

I seem to recall suggesting that she might do just such a thing a few weeks ago. Not sure how to feel about it truthfully. Any referendum can save us from Brexit which has to be a win based on where we are, but enabling the Tories is going to lose her left wing voters...

-dies-

I agree and just want to add to this that since the club that is losing out here is Real Madrid, they deserve it. Whatever he's doing, however disrespectful it is, they deserve it.

It would be interfering in an election I guess if they did. The Tories are getting the punishment they deserve in the media though.

I think he'd be massacred for it at this late stage. Would be proof Labour doesn't know what it wants, sign of weakness, all sorts. They have to stay the course now.