Rayvin

UK news push alerts skew negative on Labour and positive for Tories https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/12/uk-news-push-alerts-negative-labour-positive-tories?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard There's no MSM. Clearly. If this made it in previously further back then my apologies, but i needed to get the MSM dig in. Sure you understand

It concerns me that these small bits of good news are coming from Tory insiders. I reckon they're just getting their vote out. And we'll end up mystefied that they have a 30 seat majority. I mean how would they know the Lib Dems vote has collapsed?

I hate the waiting, mostly because i keep looking at the guardian's comment section and hearing that there's a surprise on the cards which honestly, my brain doesn't believe but my heart wants to. I'm pretty sure it's just a bunch of people like us all echo chambering themselves into hope.

How do you mean? Any hung parliament is a godsend, but the fewer seats off a majority the Tories are, the better. We need enough votes in parliament to kill Brexit.

Voted too. Gonna grab a bottle of something on the way back and wait for the inevitable.

The bookies know jack shit.

Who is Phil Wilson. A Tory I hope.. That's the thing with this, I'm not sure what high turnout means here. It might not be great news if it's a collective of super motivated Brexiteers. Corbyn's constituency has had huge numbers as well...

If it ever really came down to it I'd be "with", naturally.

You wink but i know an alarming number of people who are starting to say things like this.

They'd lose best out of 3 so personally I'd be fine to give them it, although they'd need to justify it somehow.

I'd take that if it was voted for. But look, if we have another vote and it goes against them, what are they going to say? We can just start throwing "will of the people" around, use their own bullshit against them. I honestly think they'll just become bitter and disenfranchised, and maybe that's not a bad thing. It's not going to come to that though because we are instead going to have a Tory government and two generations of young people disenfranchised.

The militant ones, no. But what are they going to do? Where do they go after this? Back to UKIP, all 4 million or so of them. The non militant ones will just get over it.

Oh. Tbh it's completely true on the surface so I missed the humour

Don't agree on that viewpoint. If its a hung parliament this time then Brexit has to be finally taken off the motherfucking table. It'll be a people's vote. Once that's done, Corbyn will be gone, Labour can ride in anew and the Tories should be skullfucked into oblivion.

Enjoy the "game".

I've seen the IFS come out and say that there's nothing terrifying in Labour's manifesto, they just think it will involve more tax for everyone. Which I would be fine with personally.

That video is on her tweet is fucking enraging btw. How anyone can watch that and think that they're not being taken for a ride by a collection of rich jackasses, I don't know. I really don't. And CT, you know fuck all about economics. Stop voting based on it. I know a guy with a fucking PhD in it and works as an advisor to the South Korean government. Guess whose spending policies he backs?

Which means Tory but with a vague attempt to appear as if that's not the case Why bother hiding it man, just say you want Johnson to win.

I don't think I can bear to watch people cheer and gloat over the Tory victory... the people who think that none of this shit matters, its all just a game.

Sorry, I was under the impression that you would find Johnson repellent. No? You've not struggled with this voting decision? But you did back Corbyn last time out, which means you think Johnson is an improvement on May?

Looks like you'll get Brexit though CT. Any consolation in that?

Letwin is still a Tory... several of those who split off from him over the No Deal business too? Cameron maybe would do the right thing this time?! It's desperate tbh.

I think they'll win a majority of around 20. I think Johnson will sell out the country either way so prefer that his majority is as small as possible. Are there any moderate Tories left...?

Well that's some reassurance but yes, shame for those young people. Must be super frustrating. I haven't voted yet, will be going around rush hour. Would be reassuring to see a queue but I've always been alone in the room previously.