Rayvin

And people make fun of me when I talk about the MSM There is going to be no trust in them if they deliver a Tory government. I know trust is low anyway, but even so.

I guess I will, feel pretty certain my vote isn't needed where I am. Need to wait until they're set up with facebook though. Will seek to trade with an LD I guess.

Faith in humanity restored a bit?

Maybe that's true, but do we not desperately need someone to just stand up and tell the fucking truth...

Which, in fairness, puts them about on par with the vast majority of other outlets.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/ipso-upholds-labour-activist-s-accuracy-complaint-against-jc-1.493698 The Jewish Chronicle forced to retract and apologise for 4 articles for lying about Corbyn, Labour and anti-semitism. I now consider this outlet to be trash and irrelevant in political discussions.

Why are people so afraid of confronting the consequences for their actions If you fuck up an entire region that is woefully underequipped to resist you conventionally, they're going to strike back however they can. I still think calling for scaling back interventionism is not a deal breaker for the Brexit crowd.

Thread.

There's actually some potential overlap with the Trump-esque right on this. As I've said before, this is more about globalisation vs anti-globalisation more than it's about left vs right - non-interventionism is anti-globalist, and on that note might resonate with the sort of people voting Brexit.

Wasn't an option. I did enjoy myself with the bit at the end where they give you a clean slate to write your feelings on the Conservatives, their campaign, and their policies

I suspect it reflects nothing more than those who are going to vote Tory hammering Labour and vice versa. The number of right wingers I've seen trying to gain traction with this notion of "but Labour is full of antisemitism" over the past few weeks is laughable. I don't even think they really understand what it means, it's just an attack word.

I signed up to them online and they sent me an email saying I'd been selected for a poll - at which point I went to the website and just ran through it.

Hmm I see. In other news, I just got polled for Yougov on which way I would vote - first time I've ever been asked anything. Expect my response to cause a huge surge in Labour's polling over the next few days

So the Marr interview was a complete waste of time I guess. Did he land any blows at all?

Labour's gains at the expense of the LDs clearly. Remainers returning to the fold. Tories losing out to the BP and maybe, just maybe, some LDs?

23% possession so far

How robust is Marr likely to be in the face of a tragic national incident? It'll be a soft touch interview which will allow Johnson to soothe voters fears, expressing solidarity with everyone, and urging the nation to come together to face such threats to our liberties blah blah. Marr will struggle to be combative in such a climate.

Right, I'm done with the BBC now. Credit to Gloom, I held out for some time in a position of just assuming they were incompetent instead of corrupt, but that's the line in the sand. They've seen an opportunity to cave in and have gone for it. Cowardly, partisan fucks.

I see. Well I'm prepared to do anything at this point. I guess it all relies on trust of course. What's to stop a collection of Tory voters abusing the system?

I don't get this. What is the benefit for the marginal voter. I mean if i give them my safe seat vote it's not like that vote matters for anything here.

Apparently there is a fake tweet of Corbyn stating sympathy for the perpetrator of the attack today doing the rounds. It feels like he's going to come under questions about this in the coming days.

The number of things Brexit achieves being as low as it is, I actually think that might be believable.

The idea that any institution is able to be incapable of bias is ridiculous. It seems clear which way the BBC leans. Not that this should be a surprise to anyone. I said a week or so ago that it's not good enough to simply point to right wingers bleating about BBC bias and use that to claim that it's probably impartial (both sides complain), because those right wingers are often utter morons. The BBC is biased against Labour and the left. I don't think it means to be, but through sheer fear of the Tories, they have become it. Spineless and broken institution.

I think we're all going through a range of emotions on this. Honestly I'm glad this community is here. We're all in the foxhole together.

Yeah but given that 50% of them are supposedly pro Tory now, maybe that's not a bad thing.