Rayvin

you should work for the BBC.

let's hope I was right!

Scary in that the combined might of both clearly trumps Labour's tally. A bit of tactical voting on their side and we're in trouble

Picked this up in RTG's politics board, apparently from Yougov constituency polling. Tory/Labour/BXP marginal. Kinda scary... constituency Con Lab LD Brexit Barnsley Central 17 42 4 33 Barnsley East 23 40 5 28 Hartlepool 30 37 5 27 Kingston upon Hull East 25 40 6 25 Doncaster North 24 44 5 24 South Shields 21 42 7 23 Easington 23 46 6 22 Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford 29 41 6 22 Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle 29 41 7 20 Washington and Sunderland West 28 42 5 20 Wigan 28 43 6 20 Jarrow 23 46 6 19 Rotherham 30 41 7 19 Wentworth and Dearne 31 42 6 19 Blaenau Gwent 23 43 5 19 Doncaster Central 33 39 5 18 Houghton and Sunderland South 29 43 5 18 Kingston upon Hull North 26 45 6 18 Hemsworth 33 42 4 17 Makerfield 30 45 5 17 Middlesbrough 25 47 5 17 Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney 19 49 4 17 Redcar 34 39 6 16 Rother Valley 42 34 4 16 St Helens North 27 48 6 16 Rhondda 15 49 4 16 Cynon Valley 20 44 4 16

As long as our interests align with his, I'm fine with that. He's carried out more scrutinous interviews of Tory MPs in this election than the BBC has, that's for sure.

I'm starting to think Piers Morgan doesn't want the Tories to win. Which is just weird. Just called Johnson a coward for not doing an interview with them (and running away).

This business of Matt Hancock having deliberately faked news and spread disinformation about that kids in Leeds hospital should be front and centre today. I daresay nothing of any relevance will be seen on the BBC though.

In some encouraging news, my 97 yr old gran who votes Tory always, and voted for Brexit, has voted Green because she finds Johnson repellent. Not sure that means anything but it surprised me a bit

I would say the tactically astute thing for Labour and basically everyone to do tomorrow, is to say there's zero risk of a Corbyn majority government, so feel completely free to vote for Labour, LDs, whoever. All that matters is killing Brexit and kicking out the Tories. There is no risk of anything on the other side so there's everything to gain and nothing to lose from a tactical vote.

Apparently last time out in their final poll, Yougov predicted 306 for the Tories. So they're 33 stronger. I mean, it's gonna be fucking close but it's the hope that kills you so I'm going to be writing the whole thing off and getting hammered on election night if it looks close.

How does that compare to 2017? I feel like we're still toast here. Any Tory majority will break us.

Missed this... actually kind of good

I thought a hung parliament was 6 or less...

Slightly less happy meaning more than 7 and less than 10.

19% of Labour is actually pretty decent assuming that those who are in a safe Labour seat just put down they'd vote first choice.

Is 36% of LDs and 19% of Labour enough?

I'm just hoping at this point that trust in the BBC has become so low that it doesn't stick. I think people know what they have to go out and do, can't imagine anyone is undecided now. That kid in Leeds hospital was a bigger blow than Ashworth despite the BBCs efforts. I still doubt it'll be enough but I'll draw some slender comfort if the majority at least chooses the none evil parties, even if they can't stop them in our system.

I'm gonna go with the Tories on an 8-10 point lead on Yougov and suspect that will hold up on election day. No one is going to change their minds because of that kid. Everyone voting Tory knows exactly what they're voting for and doesn't care because they're either cunts, or Brexit cultists.

Johnson* I don't think it will make any difference given that we've lost anyway.

If the BBC think that when Boris comes for them in a year or two, the educated and middle classes will rally around them, they've another thing coming.

I read a while ago that morale in the BBC offices was through the floor and tbh I'm not surprised with all the criticism flying around. I think its important to make one distinction in this in particular though. Your average BBC journalist is probably as ethical and upstanding as Gloom believes them to be. Where they're being let down is by those above them. Those who are presumably earning hundreds of thousands a year and actually stand to lose out under a fairer system...

Monbiot breaking an embargo to demonstrate that a collection of newspapers (but definitely not the "MSM") wrote a pack of lies about Labour wanting to introduce a tax on capital gains instead of the idea being reviewed and rejected. IPSO had agreed they all lied but seemed content to prevent the admission coming before the election, hence the embargo. So that's another conspiracy to misinform the public. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour?

That staged photo claim is just... I mean the telegraph has always been a Tory paper but it's interesting to see yet another journalist fail to carry about basic journalistic rigour and just run with utter crap. I'm wondering how much more of this there needs to be before people start admitting the media aren't able to function. It's just so depressing.

Corbyn is shite. The remain parties are shite. The media have been shite. The public are shite.

We lost 6-0 at home to Liverpool under Pardew, I reckon that was worse.