Rayvin

I'm wondering if the votes might still overall favour Remain parties though. Impossible demographic split now though.

Wooooww... We got fucking obliterated.

Labour's internal polling based on canvassing predicts 36.2%. Which, given the high proportion of votes in city areas, means we're probably fucked.

Have decided Gloom is right on sterling, sadly. It's been going down all day, presumably in response to turnout. And now it's jumping in the last hour. That has to be a response to some new info and the only thing it can possibly be is a Tory majority.

Again, how does anyone know what the results are? Nobody knows unless the exit polls have started leaking info.

My bad, didn't check who he was. Nevermind.

Just to moderate people's expectations a bit... leave voters are still wrapped in blind devotion to Brexit, nothing has changed there.

Aye that's depressing as fuck MF. Would like to see any Tory voters justify their vote against it tbh. Amongst so many other things.

I actually went and checked. The bookies have no inside track, no relevant information, nothing to use to help them set bets for elections other than the betting trends themselves. Don't worry about what the bookies are saying.

UK news push alerts skew negative on Labour and positive for Tories https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/12/uk-news-push-alerts-negative-labour-positive-tories?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard There's no MSM. Clearly. If this made it in previously further back then my apologies, but i needed to get the MSM dig in. Sure you understand

It concerns me that these small bits of good news are coming from Tory insiders. I reckon they're just getting their vote out. And we'll end up mystefied that they have a 30 seat majority. I mean how would they know the Lib Dems vote has collapsed?

I hate the waiting, mostly because i keep looking at the guardian's comment section and hearing that there's a surprise on the cards which honestly, my brain doesn't believe but my heart wants to. I'm pretty sure it's just a bunch of people like us all echo chambering themselves into hope.

How do you mean? Any hung parliament is a godsend, but the fewer seats off a majority the Tories are, the better. We need enough votes in parliament to kill Brexit.

Voted too. Gonna grab a bottle of something on the way back and wait for the inevitable.

The bookies know jack shit.

Who is Phil Wilson. A Tory I hope.. That's the thing with this, I'm not sure what high turnout means here. It might not be great news if it's a collective of super motivated Brexiteers. Corbyn's constituency has had huge numbers as well...

If it ever really came down to it I'd be "with", naturally.

You wink but i know an alarming number of people who are starting to say things like this.

They'd lose best out of 3 so personally I'd be fine to give them it, although they'd need to justify it somehow.

I'd take that if it was voted for. But look, if we have another vote and it goes against them, what are they going to say? We can just start throwing "will of the people" around, use their own bullshit against them. I honestly think they'll just become bitter and disenfranchised, and maybe that's not a bad thing. It's not going to come to that though because we are instead going to have a Tory government and two generations of young people disenfranchised.

The militant ones, no. But what are they going to do? Where do they go after this? Back to UKIP, all 4 million or so of them. The non militant ones will just get over it.

Oh. Tbh it's completely true on the surface so I missed the humour

Don't agree on that viewpoint. If its a hung parliament this time then Brexit has to be finally taken off the motherfucking table. It'll be a people's vote. Once that's done, Corbyn will be gone, Labour can ride in anew and the Tories should be skullfucked into oblivion.