Rayvin

Welcome back mate You're not wrong on any of that.

He supports a lower league team that I can't remember, someone like Crewe or something. I think you're right about his consistency overall.

Agreed tbh. Thanks mate.

Fair.

Can see this side too. I guess time will tell for me where I stand on this, gonna have to reflect on it for a while.

Aye, very true.

In fairness, you lot should be well used to my hand wringing by now

Not feeling guilty about celebrating the success, but whether the success will really feel like it would have if we had done it without Saudi money, and all the moral considerations that come with it. Is the Newcastle owned by Saudi going to be the same Newcastle we all came to love. I mean, is it that club anymore anyway tbf. I've been looking at this as a 'the club is ours again' moment more than anything else and that article brought me back down to earth somewhat. As HMHM says, it'll take a bit off the shine off. I guess the worry is, how big a bit that is.

Fucks sake man. That's hurt me a bit tbf. He's probably right about how it will feel in the end. He might not be, but he probably is.

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Clearly the only morally correct response to this is to disband football altogether. Any team or club that legitimises the Saudi Royal Family by playing against us or operating in the same hierarchical league structure as we do is in effect legitimising the whole enterprise, to a greater extent I would argue than the fans are. I mean the club could continue to operate without the backing of the fans, but couldn't operate without the engagement of the rest of the football community.

That's quite the claim tbh

I mean, was he exiled or does he just feel more at home on their message boards?

Sima used to post somewhere other than RTG??

This purchase will not change my opinion of Saudi Arabia as a despotic, tyrannical regime of hypocritical fuckheads, in the slightest. But I am going to underline to any and all comers that we live in a country that is so wedded to free marketeering that we -allowed- a despotic, tyrannical regime of hypocritical fuckheads to take over a football club because that's what the free market means.

He now seems to be about to "clarify" that it wasn't a political decision.

What the fuck crawled onto and then died upon his face...

It's an unverified Twitter user so always worth a bit of skepticism. Obviously I would never trust the government, they've got form, I get that, but still.. This is a huge accusation.

Well it looks like it's not the government based on the way this is snowballing. Utterly disgusting. Actually using pictures of NHS staff without their permission as well. It is indeed out of control.

Who do we trust on this?

I didn't say anything about dictatorships mate, after the last few years in the UK I'm quite confident that the morality slider for democracy versus dictatorships isn't as clear cut as it used to be. We're talking about specific countries/regimes. I assume you could just go on to name whatever it is you're referring to there, but I urge to consider my following point: I am completely defeated on this. My political worldview is shot, I have no hope for the future, I have given up completely. You don't need to spar with me on this, your side won in absolute entirety, and as far as I can tell will not be deposed for a generation at least, by which point I will have entirely disengaged. Facts don't matter, evidence doesn't matter, reality doesn't matter. I will not reply to a further post on this point, but I wish to convey that I respect your opinion. I just don't care what it is anymore

The government certainly didn't.

I'm not even really saying an earlier lockdown would have been an improvement, I'm saying an earlier response to the whole situation, buying equipment, not sending the limited equipment that we had out to China, using proper suppliers instead of Brexit backing manufacturers - all of that would have helped. Listening to the report in 2016 that revealed that the NHS was woefully underprepared instead of burying it because "it was too terrifying for the public to see". There are many failures that span many Tory governments. I'm not saying it's all Johnson's fault, although he failed in his role here, by not acting quickly enough or taking the threat seriously. It's not hindsight if you run a risk assessment in 2016 that highlights everything that would go wrong in a pandemic, ignore it, and then have everything that the risk assessment flagged up, actually go wrong in real life. That's not hindsight. It's incompetence. It's actually dereliction of duty if you ask me.

I'm also curious what a 'losing battle' is, for you - it was never going to kill everyone. This whole thing was about stopping the NHS being overwhelmed. To do that, they've had to decimate the country's economy - had they not brought the health service to its knees, maybe your job and our collective future prospects would have been a lot safer. Maybe this wouldn't have been necessary, or at least not as severe.