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I mean, that's true as well in fairness. Can't imagine it was much better under Blair.

I'm past caring about this kind of shit now - we voted for the Tories, so they're doing what they do. No Deal Brexit and widespread corruption in a race to the bottom of workers rights and selling off public institutions and peerages to their mates. This is the country we've chosen to be.

No, just speculating that if this does become some kind of pitched battle for the heart and soul of the party, it'll probably become a two-way race.

Is anyone paying close enough attention ( @The Fish ) to their team to identify the reason they currently suck? Honestly they shouldn't be midtable League One and it's borderline ridiculous that not only did they get relegated to it, they've actually actively embraced that division. It's hilarious, but ridiculous.

There seems to be solid momentum behind RLB, although so far I have the feeling that she has just south of 50% of the membership behind her, and the others are spread widely amongst different candidates. If it becomes a two horse race, maybe it becomes closer.

Merry Christmas lads, you're all a good bunch and I hope you and your families have a lovely day. The thread itself has been a bit of a rollercoaster

Their football situation is so exciting that they have a thread where they collectively count to 1 million. Seriously. That's the thread. Each poster adds the next number in the chain. It starts at 100,036 because, presumably, the original was destroyed. They have been doing this for over a year. https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/count-to-a-million-from-100-036.1434245/

This is possibly the most desperate post I've seen from a mackem. That £10m, as I gather from RTG, is being spent refurbishing a lift and other bits and pieces around the stadium. You let us know how that turns out as a 'long term investment plan' for a football club.

Given that history will likely be written by Remainers, and given that historians will be able to see the actual clusterfuck that Brexit caused, I think it's doubtful she's right. But at least it confirms she's an arse.

Yeah fuck that. We're going to get fucking nowhere if we have "self proclaimed stalinists" in the picture.

This is literally the inner battle I am currently waging

It's an interesting review and I agree with a lot of it, but in fairness I doubt it comes as a surprise to anyone on here really. It does make me wonder if Labour should hold firm with these young people rather than compromise their position of strength there in a short term bid to wrest back the rural communities.

So according to RTG, the next season of their Netflix comedy series will be called "The comeback". That is brutal

Called it?

We've lost the chance to do anything about it for another 5 years. The Tories slashed homelessness support by half, and homelessness doubled. It'll only get worse as we move into Brexit. This is what inequality looks like I suppose, and we're all just going to have to get used to seeing it.

It's possible.

Actually, I'm not happy with anything I just wrote in that post so I'm just going to scale back on the use of education as a metric for people's voting for now. There are too many other parameters mixed up in there. I suspect I might actually mean 'informed' rather than 'educated'.

"these people" in this context meaning - people who vote based on what other people think of them And I don't really believe it's a group populated by many people at all.. Also, quick reality check - if someone is uneducated, are we saying it's now not ok to state this fact, and we have to use a term like... educationally deviant? Or maybe 'people who chose non-academic proficiencies and achievements'? The value of a human being has nothing to do with their level of educational attainment as we can see from the Tory party, but the level of educational achievement an individual has directly influences their ability to smoke out bullshit. So how should I refer to people who can't smoke it out, in future? EDIT - tbh, maybe it would be better to refer to intelligence rather than educated, as I've met some moronic educated people. But calling people unintelligent seems factually wrong and unfair...

I think Starmer might win it, penis or not. He could always claim to be trans I suppose, but I'd like to think even the middle class feminists can see the need for us not to get bogged down in this nonsense right now.

Not Cooper?

I didn't specifically say that tbh. I'm just making a general observation that the educated urbanites seem to vote our way. The problem seems to be more urban vs rural/towns than educated vs uneducated. Having said that, if these people are voting for their futures based on whether someone like me thinks they're educated or not they're beyond help. I've seen so many people saying "ha, that's what you get for insulting leave voters" and all that tells me is that leave voters are so immature that they're prepared to vote stupidly, ignore all reason, just because someone said something mean about them. I don't believe for a second they're that childish.

Yeah, I think it's an overreaction tbh. We need whoever is best placed to pummel Johnson, not another populist.

You can sign me up for whichever one of them wants to introduce gulags and abolish private property, naturally.

I'm currently tempted to vote Cooper, but will see what they all have to say first

What has Lisa Nandy done to deserve such high praise?