Rayvin
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I'm voting for Starmer. He's the most pro-EU candidate and that's all I care about.
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I was making a general comment alluding to my wider existential crisis and lack of personal meaning I appreciate you taking the time to engage with me and to set me right on things tbh. And I mean that sincerely. Biden doesn't sound as bad as I first thought.
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I am indeed.
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It is up for debate ffs. What would Blair's position on Brexit have been then, that would have won over the Leave voters? Jesus Christ man.
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Ah, back to being stupid again. It's been a while. You're probably right tbh. But no contribution you have ever made on this forum has made me reconsider my position on anything. I've changed my mind plenty on here in the face of evidence, but I'm yet to see you go toe to toe with me on anything. So you can stick to sniping pointlessly but tbh mate, I'm just gonna ignore it from here on out unless it comes with an argument.
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Me too just about. In charge, that is. Leading the parties trying to get back into power - no. They'd lose. EDIT - which is a moot point really because we're losing no matter what. So I'm gonna stick to voting for this that makes logical sense, until such a time as I believe anyone can actually win. In the UK, it means Green.
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I'm not doing this mate, I'm surprised I've been drawn into this as much as I have. I'm not denigrating Blair or Obama or anyone. But they're not the men we need right now.
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Ok? I'm good without your approval ewerk I mean, I'll survive.
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I mean the parallels with my stance are really clear though, so again, I was speaking in that sense. Nevermind anyway, it's all a moot point. If Sanders throws his weight behind Biden when the latter wins, in the same way he did for Clinton, then maybe enough people can be called out for Trump to be defeated. We'll see I suppose, but it looks like game over now for Sanders.
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Fair enough if he manages all of it, I guess. I'll hold my hands up if he does. Will you lot hold your hands up if Trump destroys him? I already know, don't bother answering.
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His broad tent is older voters. That's a common theme going right through it irrespective of other demographics. He's a favourite of boomers with some degree of liberal conscience.
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By virtue of that, none of us can complain about Trump having been elected in the first place. I'll complain if I want to, thanks
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It's not moral purity. I'm not claiming any moral highground. I just don't give a fuck anymore. Trump, Bloomberg, Biden, I don't see the fucking difference. All of them well to the right of the Tories. Rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
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If I was them, that kind of bullshit wouldn't work on me anymore. My conscience would be clear as day.
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Depends how many Bernie voters are prepared to vote for him really.
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I think I've given up on hope altogether tbh. I "hope" I'm not right too. But the consistent thing I've noticed in my entire adult life following politics, is statements like the following: The Tories and the LDs will never keep this coalition together. The Tories will never win after austerity. Leave won't win. Brexit will never actually happen. Trump will never win. The Tories will never get away with Brexit. Trump will never see out a full term. Latest instalments are: Trump won't win next time. The Tories won't survive actually delivering Brexit.
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How do we achieve normality with the planet on fire? How do you mitigate for that without radical overhaul?
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I've noticed the stuff about Starmer's funding too. It's pointless and doesn't get us anywhere. Starmer will lose to the Tories but he'll lose more closely than RLB will. May as well put our best foot forward.
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Maybe. I have nothing left to believe in. IMO Trump will win and use COVID to sustain his assaults on internationalism. Johnson will win because Labour are done. 4 more years of the former, and IMO up to two more terms for the latter.
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Clinton lost to a man whose ratings were the lowest of any president to take office, after he was publicly outed for sexual assault, and whose incompetence knows no bounds. She lost to that man. I don't care if it was by one vote, she was smashed. Any competent (far) right politician would have utterly annihilated her. As it is, an incompetent one won a close victory. People want change.
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That's the point though ewerk. There is nothing being put forward that the left can unify around - not even climate change has managed to do it. You talk about unity as if we should all just band together around whatever policies float at the time. That isn't a fucking vision, it's not unity, its an alliance of convenience. The left does need a movement, it needs something like momentum even. Just a momentum run by people who aren't total fuckwits. Unfortunately with the left, although increasingly with the right too, it's only the total fuckwits that come to the fore. So it doesn't matter who I dismiss in this fiasco of a political leaning because until someone comes forward with an actual fucking vision and a strategy to achieve it, a Blair if you will but clearly a more radical one, we aren't going anywhere. Starmer, as much as I'll vote for him, has no vision. He will lose. Biden has no vision. He will lose. If we do get someone with a vision, the media just destroy them. We are fucked.
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I'm going to add that the left will never capitalise because it needs a global movement and is incapable of creating one. It is intellectually bankrupt with no ideas or vision around which to unify people other than fear of climate change. It has filled it's ranks with the super woke who achieve utterly fuck all aside from immediately switching off the working classes, and when it finally does put forward people like Corbyn and Sanders who actually stand on platforms of truth with policies that can make a difference, it fails to credibly defend them from the obvious as fuck targeting and sustained attacks they come under. The left is a disorganised, useless collective of well-meaning hand wringers who lack the strategic vision to mount a serious challenge, and the fire and fury to push it forward even if they did manage to create one. I give Sanders a pass on this actually because i think he has both in spades - his problem is he's trying to reform a country that is beyond the pale in the stupidity stakes. The left will never beat the right because the left are made up of pleasant ordinary people with a social conscience who think that if they're just nice enough to everyone and tell the truth, they'll change people's minds. Meanwhile the right are spending billions changing the definition of the word 'truth', hiding facts through newsfeed algorithms, lying shamelessly, and perverting legal and electoral processes. How are the left ever going to beat that? We haven't even gotten started on deep faking yet, but you just know that it'll be a generation defining political fuckfest when that comes into play.
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I'm not even that young anymore and I'm disengaging as a result of people like Biden. In 20 years time we will have a world awash with the problems caused by climate change and an electorate that is broken and furious that this shit is what was left behind by their parents. But as much as you might think those voters will vote left, they won't. The right will win as it points to closing borders to stop climate migrants, isolation and protectionism. The left will suddenly be the thing we dont have time for, we'll need immediate, police state style solutions. Added to this, Rupert Murdoch's preserved head will still be running 50% of the world's media.
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It's nice that Ireland has a population of intelligent people who can make informed decisions. And the boomers will die eventually but they will still stitch us up man. There is no way through the smears, lies, untruths and fake news.
