Rayvin

When the Arsenal gig goes wrong, will Arteta work in the PL again? I'd say no. The top ten wouldn't have him, and the bottom ten would be 'beneath' him. He'll go back to Spain, beneath the top two big teams and probably end up with some midtable side. Maybe Italy at a push. The guy just doesn't have it.

"I will take all the shit for you guys again, eh?" Has he ever actually done that.

Yep. I mean in Arteta's case, they were talking before the game about how there is a rivalry between him and Howe. No there fucking isn't man, there's a rivalry on Arteta's side for sure, but to imagine that Howe gives the guy any more thought than any other manager is nonsense. So in this case, while I totally agree with the Leeds point, I would also say that Arteta himself psychologically hinders his team in this fixture because he has no chill whatsoever, and because his players will know how much getting shown up by us bothers him. The reality is Howe cooked him alive with a perfectly executed gameplan that Arteta didn't anticipate. He did not expect us to attack them. He had no answer for it. That should have been his post match interview. That might have relieved some pressure on his players. "Yeah we played well but I failed to anticipate that Newcastle would attack us so willingly, we don't see that very often at home and it's something I will definitely be more aware of in future." How fucking hard would that have been.

Was reading their forums and it was enjoyable stuff tbh. Highlights: 1 - Arteta is finished. 2 - Havertz is a joke. 3 - They need Isak. 4 - They hate Gordon, but they want to sign him too. 5 - One of them is 17 stone and could beat up Joelinton. 6 - They were hugely insulted when we subbed Isak off and thought Howe was dissing Arteta. 7 - They think Odegard is finished because he's now a father. 8 - Some of them did admit they played well but that we were better with our gameplan. That if they play like that at the weekend, they beat Man Utd. 9 - They are literally Stoke but not as good at it. Some oddly self aware takes mixed with some weirdness

This. Mass social media exodus would probably do a lot of people the world of good anyway.

I reckon they got to 2nd by people playing defensively against them and thinking they're a lot better than they are.

He's absolutely one of these people who just cannot be graceful in defeat. Basically puts our goals down to chaos, deflections and luck, while his own team were comfortably the ones deserving of the win apparently. Absolute fucking weapon of a man. Deserves all the failure he delivers.

He'd be a terrible fit for them tbh. Reckon he's just looked at the league and picked them at random. Heavily pro Labour city and fanbase, owned by that bellend Not sure about that one.

Aye that was an impressive interview indeed. All about his team, downplayed his own goal and heaped praise on Isak. Really impressive because reality is, he's a very important player to us too.

Absolutely superb. We can beat fucking anyone on our day tbh. We're coached better than 95% of the league, and we have very good players.

GET THE FUCK IN MAANNNNNNN

I'm watching this on Sky/Now and they've honestly been pretty positive about us

Aye but they changed that, Arteta now has them operating as an homage to us

Would say they need 3-1 to make this a bad result for us now mind.

Good half tbf. We look really professional these days, all over the pitch.

Arteta fucking hates us mind. Doesn't directly say it but it's there

Absolutely this. 1-0 defeat not the end of the world.

I thought we had Schar back for this one, was his ban more than 1 game?

Yeah I don't doubt we can beat them but the rest of the league seems incredibly slow at responding to tactical shifts in other teams, or plotting how to deal with them. Almost like most of the people running football clubs aren't really that smart. I would add to your list that prioritising an early goal would be significant - forces them to attack against a defending team and opens up potential for the quick breaks you mention.

Some of it might be earmarked for contract renewals mind. It's also possible that it was a calculated risk against hoped for future earnings.

This is still valid to some extent. Arsenal are that fragile that us beating them in the cup might well torpedo their league campaign.

Wolves' passing is diabolical. It reminds me of how we used to be. In a sense, as frustrating as it is in this game, it's nice to remember how far we've come.

Well, Wolves aren't turning that around. Forest don't look amazing, just fast.

Wolves literally firing chances into Sels' chest ffs.

Aye just saw it yeah - set piece and two counter attack goals. This is the thing tbh once they're struggling they've got to attack and the whole thing falls apart. Maybe they'd have more success at our place, perversely.