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  1. Danny Baker seems to have had a few cans and is saying it like it is @prodnose He should be in the studio not players mate peter crouch.
  2. They were still in mourning for the 10% of their salaries they've lost since Thursday bless them. CT and Bojo to blame.
  3. I didn't expect us to get out of the groups mind so I call it over achievement.
  4. Every labour MP to resign in protest at Corbyn on the grounds that we must have an effective opposition abstained in the 2015 vote on Tory welfare cuts. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
  5. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/curb-your-enthusiasm-new-season-9-larry-david-confirmed-hbo-release-date-jeff-susie-jb-smoove-a7082311.html New Curb
  6. At least 2 out of those 3 are worsened by TTIP though http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html I can see why he's uncomfortable arguing that remain will be good for those things rather than the truth of "it's complicated".
  7. Which should enamour him to the majority that voted leave as well of us who view remain as nothing better than the lesser of two evils. What's going on in the This Morning production office that means they want a boring cunt like corbyn on to talk about anything more than once? It's nothing whatsoever to do with his remain campaigning. I saw no more of Benn on the trail. Corbyn has rejected media interviews from day 1 of his leadership. The political court cannot be seen to be embarrassed by a man who doesn't play the political game. For them it's about personal profile, self publicity, links with business and assuring a big pay day after serving their time. Corbyn has spent decades ignoring all of that.
  8. Perhaps, but reading stuff like Phil Wilson in the guardian today shows that the establishment labor party just doesn't get that the status quo will not make them electable. He complains Corbyn 'did not visit the Labour heartlands of the north-east and instead raised esoteric issues such as TTIP which had no resonance on the doorstep." Perhaps because TTIP is one of the major issues of the day which should be a major fear on every doorstep. It only worsens the corporate takeover and is shamefully ignored by most media... And it seems MP's are happy to see it walked through at the cost of the poorer people as long as they project an electable image friendly to business that would punish the market otherwise. Corbyn has faults and has shown a damaging mix of weakness and stubbornness, but I still align closer with him than any of these vermin.
  9. Great Britains decision to leave the European Union has wiped out many bankers and global speculators. They will turn, as they did in 2008, to governments to rescue them from default. Most governments, including ours, will probably comply. Will the American public passively permit another massive bailout of the banks? Will it accept more punishing programs of austerity to pay for this bailout? Will a viable socialism rise out of the economic chaos to halt further looting of the U.S. Treasury and the continued reconfiguration of the economy into neofeudalism? Or will a right-wing populism, with heavy undertones of fascism, ascend to power because of a failure on the part of the left to defend a population once again betrayed? Whatever happens next will be chaotic. Global financial markets, which lost heavily on derivatives, are already in free fall. The value of the British pound has dropped by over 9 percent and British bank stock prices by over 25 percent. This decline has wiped out the net worth of many Wall Street brokerage houses and banks, leaving them with negative equity. The Brexit vote severely cripples and perhaps kills the eurozone and, happily, stymies trade agreements such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. It throws the viability of NATO and American imperial designs in Eastern Europe and the Middle East into question. The British publics repudiation of neoliberal economics also has the potential to upend the presidential elections. The Democratic Party will orchestrate a rescue of Wall Street if there is a call for a bailout. Donald Trump and the Republicans, by opposing a bailout, can ride popular revulsion to power. A lot of banks in America and Europe that held their money in Great Britain just lost 9 percent at current exchange rates, said economist Michael Hudson when I reached him in New York by phone. They have probably not hedged it. There have probably been large Wall Street institutions that made bets believing that Britain would remain in the European Union. There are firms and banks, I suspect, which have lost hundreds of billions of dollars. There is talk of another Lehman Brothers. We dont yet know who it will be. The Democratic Party, by rescuing Wall Street, will be unmasked as the handmaidens of the financial elite. I expect Obama to do whatever he is told to do by Wall Street, Hudson said. He has turned over management of the economy to his campaign contributors from Goldman Sachs and Chase Manhattan. He does not have views of his own, other than self-promotion. He wants his presidential library. He wants to have a big foundation like the Clintons. Most of the population will oppose a bailout, of course, and he will cry all the way to the bank. Economies built on scaffolds of debt eventually collapse. There comes a moment when the service of the debt, as we see in Greece, becomes unsustainable. More and more draconian austerity measures are imposed on a captive public to pay banks and bondholders until these measures reach an intolerable level. The people revolt. The system crashes. This is what happened in Britain. The war against international finance, and the array of intergovernmental systems and institutions used to enforce the predatory beast of global speculation, has begun. The question is, who will win? Will it be the banks, which intend to continue to pillage economies? Or will it be popular movements that will rise up to cancel debt and reinstate economic and political sovereignty? Hudson sees the crisis in Europe as, in part, spawned by the U.S. intervention in the Middle East and the Ukraine. If there is anyone who is responsible for the Brexit, it is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, he said. They destroyed Libya. They turned over Libyan weapons to [islamic State], al-Qaida and [Nusra Front]. It was their war in Syria, where many of these weapons ended up, which created the massive exodus of refugees into Europe. This exodus exacerbated nationalism and anti-immigrant sentiment. Clinton and Obama are also responsible for a huge exodus of Ukrainians. This is all a response to American war policy in the Middle East and the Ukraine. In central Europe, with the expansion of NATO, Washington is meanwhile demanding that governments spend billions on weapons rather than on recovering the economy. The eurozone prohibits central banks from financing government budget deficits. Countries in the eurozone have, in effect, surrendered economic and political sovereignty. They cannot create money to cope with their budget deficits or pump money into the economy. This, Hudson said, has turned the eurozone into a dead zone since 2008. The eurozone now shrinks economies through debt deflation, said Hudson, author of Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy. That is one of the factors that led the British and the euroskeptic parties to say, We dont want to be a part of a Europe run by banks that impose debt deflation. We want governments that can create their own money to re-inflate the economy and build economic recovery. As long as a country remains part of the eurozone, bankers will continue to lower wages and wipe out pension funds to pay bondholders. The Brexit vote reverses this rotten program. There are now calls from the Netherlands, France and Austria for a similar referendum. The debt imposed on countries like Greece can never be paid off, Hudson went on. And the intention is that it can never be paid off. The banks use this inability to pay to insist that governments sell off more and more of the public domain and privatize. Debt is the lever used to force privatization. It takes away the power to carry out public investment and build a public infrastructure. Some financial firms, banks and perhaps even governments will now default, Hudson predicted. The French and other European banks will try and pick up the banking business that operated out of London. There is going to be a huge loss by British banks. The taxes paid by these firms and banks will disappear from the British economy. Who is the British central bank going to create money for in this crisis? Is it going to put money into the economy, or is it going to pay for a new wave of quantitative easing so the banks can make up the losses on their bad bets? Britains withdrawal from the eurozone will damage not only the international banking system, but hamper Washingtons aggressive policies toward Russia and the Ukraine. Britain has served within the EU as an American proxy. German Social Democratic Party leaders, who have accused NATO of warmongering, have already called for the lifting of the sanctions against Russia. And there is a growing reluctance to continue supporting endless war in the Middle East. By breaking with the European bankers, you also ultimately break with the American domination of Europe through NATO, Hudson said. At some point, governments are going to have to put their own populations and economies above those of predators, he said. The only question is, how long it will take the political system to realize the debts imposed on them by the banks cannot be paid? How long will it take to turn this mathematical certainty into a political response? If the liberal class, embodied by the Democratic Party and bankrupt socialist parties in countries such as France, continue to serve the bankers, the right wing will have an easy route to power. This will be true in Europe and the United States. Trump, in Scotland, heralded the vote to leave the EU as a great thing. People want to take their country back, they want to have independence in a sense, and you see it with Europe, all over Europe, and youre going to have more than just, in my opinion, more than just what happened last night, Trump said. Youre going to have many other cases where people want to take their borders back, they want to take their monetary [policy] back, they want to take a lot of things back, they want to be able to have a country again. Hudson said such a stance could propel Trump and other right-wing populists to power. I can see Trump winning the election if he opposes what I expect will be the coming bailout of Wall Street, Hudson said. By the time Obama leaves office, the economy will probably be wrecked. I see us undergoing a slow crash. The economy will go down and down and down. If the Democrats give more money to Wall Street and creditors, if they say the debts have to be repaid, if they again use government to hand money to the 1 percent, they will be discredited. Economic chaos always leads to political chaos. The only way to stop this move to the right is for genuine socialist movements and parties, such as Podemos in Spain, to organize and challenge the international banking system and its enablers in the political establishment. And they need to do it now. http://m.truthdig.com/report/page2/2008_all_over_again_20160624
  10. http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ewcj5v/acts/a8mqwh#p03zknsp Mr Blue Sky Shits on whatever this is that Eavis is doing with Coldplay. Never seen such indulgent bilge.
  11. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03y1m49/glastonbury-2016-aurora If you're looking for anything from Glasto that isn't any of the headlining shite, try 35 minutes into this. my second favourite song of the year.
  12. These shadow cabinet resignations have been slow coming like. Andrew Neil reckons they're bottling it
  13. Did he weigh in? Routledge was retweeting his agent on how important the vote was for protecting their astronomical incomes. Another example of remain wankers misjudging what will encourage the angry poor to do their bidding.
  14. I think it was Eddie Izzard's pink fucking beret that won it for leave mind you. I almost went with leave rather than align myself with that cunt.
  15. If people have felt let down by the last centrist "new" labor exercise you might have to wait another generation or 2 before they'll buy into another. It's all well and good moaning about corbyn, but he's the logical outcome of labor voters let down by a leadership that took their voters into an illegal war and maintained the status quo in the city. Even a new new labor project that looked to be right of corbyn while avoiding the major failings of previous incarnation is going to get short shrift from members and public let down by Blair & Brown (and Milliband). Similarly the lib dems. The only positive is that the Tories also have the potential to start falling apart now as well, which looked unlikely with a remain vote.
  16. 3 days for the shadow cabinet to kick off to ensure the hoofing corbyn gets is maximised in the news cycle rather than buried in the initial Brexit fallout. Real knife twisting shit.
  17. Whatever one thinks of Corbyn's talents, you say that as if only people of great intellect and/or charisma get to lead nations.
  18. They'd be distraught if they were the ones being pressured to enforce remain... seeing as it's their path to another referendum on independence.
  19. Brexit is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions Glenn Greenwald June 25 2016, 4:48 p.m. THE DECISION BY UK VOTERS to leave the EU is such a glaring repudiation of the wisdom and relevance of elite political and media institutions that for once their failures have become a prominent part of the storyline. Media reaction to the Brexit vote falls into two general categories: (1) earnest, candid attempts to understand what motivated voters to make this choice, even if that means indicting ones own establishment circles, and (2) petulant, self-serving, simple-minded attacks on disobedient pro-leave voters for being primitive, xenophobic bigots (and stupid to boot), all to evade any reckoning with their own responsibility. Virtually every reaction that falls into the former category emphasizes the profound failures of western establishment factions; these institutions have spawned pervasive misery and inequality, only to spew condescending scorn at their victims when they object. The Los Angeles Times Vincent Bevins, in an outstanding and concise analysis, wrote that both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for thirty years; in particular, since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt. The British journalist Tom Ewing, in a comprehensive Brexit explanation, said the same dynamic driving the UK vote prevails in Europe and North America as well: the arrogance of neoliberal elites in constructing a politics designed to sideline and work around democracy while leaving democracy formally intact. In an interview with The New Statesman, the political philosopher Michael Sandel also said that the dynamics driving the pro-Brexit sentiment were now dominant throughout the west generally: a large constituency of working-class voters feel that not only has the economy left them behind, but so has the culture, that the sources of their dignity, the dignity of labour, have been eroded and mocked by developments with globalisation, the rise of finance, the attention that is lavished by parties across the political spectrum on economic and financial elites, the technocratic emphasis of the established political parties. After the market-venerating radicalism of Reagan and Thatcher, he said, the centre left Blair and Clinton and various European parties managed to regain political office but failed to reimagine the mission and purpose of social democracy, which ­became empty and obsolete. Three Guardian writers sounded similar themes about elite media ignorance, stemming from their homogeneity and detachment from the citizenry. John Harris quoted a Manchester voter as explaining that if youve got money, you vote in. If you havent got money, you vote out, and Harris added: most of the media . . . failed to see this coming. . . . The alienation of the people charged with documenting the national mood from the people who actually define it is one of the ruptures that has led to this moment. Gary Younge similarly denounced a section of the London-based commentariat [that] anthropologised the British working class as though they were a lesser evolved breed from distant parts, all too often portraying them as bigots who did not know what was good for them. Ian Jacks article was headlined In this Brexit vote, the poor turned on an elite who ignored them, and he described how gradually the sight of empty towns and shuttered shops became normalised or forgotten. Headlines like this one from The Guardian in 2014 were prescient but largely ignored: Though there were some exceptions, establishment political and media elites in the UK were vehemently united against Brexit, but their decreed wisdom was ignored, even scorned. That has happened time and again. As their fundamental failures become more evident to all, these elites have lost credibility, lost influence, and lost the ability to dictate outcomes. Just last year in the UK, Labour members chose someone to lead Tony Blairs party the authentically left-wing Jeremy Corbyn who could not have been more intensely despised and patronized by almost every leading light of the British media and political class. In the U.S., the joyful rejection by Trump voters of the collective wisdom of the conservative establishment evidenced the same contempt for elite consensus. The enthusiastic and sustained rallying, especially by young voters, against beloved-by-the-establishment Hillary Clinton in favor of a 74-year-old socialist taken seriously by almost no DC elites reflected the same dynamic. Elite denunciations of the right-wing parties of Europe fall on deaf ears. Elites cant stop, or even affect, any of these movements because they are, at bottom, revolts against their wisdom, authority and virtue. In sum, the wests establishment credibility is dying, and their influence is precipitously eroding all deservedly so. The frenetic pace of online media makes even the most recent events feel distant, like ancient history. That, in turn, makes it easy to lose sight of how many catastrophic and devastating failures western elites have produced in a remarkably short period of time. In 2003, U.S. and British elites joined together to advocate one of the most heinous and immoral aggressive wars in decades: the destruction of Iraq; that it turned out to be centrally based on falsehoods that were ratified by the most trusted institutions, as well as a complete policy failure even on its own terms, gutted public trust. In 2008, their economic worldview and unrestrained corruption precipitated a global economic crisis that literally caused, and is still causing, billions of people to suffer in response, they quickly protected the plutocrats who caused the crisis while leaving the victimized masses to cope with the generational fallout. Even now, western elites continue to proselytize markets and impose free trade and globalization without the slightest concern for the vast inequality and destruction of economic security those policies generate. In 2011, NATO bombed Libya by pretending it was motivated by humanitarianism, only to ignore that country once the fun military triumph was celebrated, thus leaving a vacuum of anarchy and milita rule for years that spread instability through the region and fueled the refugee crisis. The U.S. and its European allies continue to invade, occupy and bomb predominantly Muslim countries while propping up their most brutal tyrants, then feign befuddlement about why anyone would want to attack them back, justifying erosions of basic liberties and more bombing campaigns and ratcheting up fear levels each time someone does. The rise of ISIS and the foothold it seized in Iraq and Libya were the direct by-products of the wests military actions (as even Tony Blair admitted regarding Iraq). Western societies continue to divert massive resources into military weaponry and prisons for their citizens, enriching the most powerful factions in the process, all while imposing harsh austerity on already suffering masses. In sum, western elites thrive while everyone else loses hope. These are not random, isolated mistakes. They are the by-product of fundamental cultural pathologies within western elite circles a deep rot. Why should institutions that have repeatedly authored such travesties, and spread such misery, continue to command respect and credibility? They shouldnt, and theyre not. As Chris Hayes warned in his 2012 book Twilight of the Elites, given both the scope and depth of this distrust [in elite institutions], its clear that were in the midst of something far grander and more perilous than just a crisis of government or a crisis of capitalism. We are in the midst of a broad and devastating crisis of authority. Its natural and inevitable that malignant figures will try to exploit this vacuum of authority. All sorts of demagogues and extremists will try to re-direct mass anger for their own ends. Revolts against corrupt elite institutions can usher in reform and progress, but they can also create a space for the ugliest tribal impulses: xenophobia, authoritarianism, racism, fascism. One sees all of that, both good and bad, manifesting in the anti-establishment movements throughout the U.S., Europe, and the UK: including Brexit. All of this can be invigorating, or promising, or destabilizing, or dangerous: most likely a combination of all that. The solution is not to subserviently cling to corrupt elite institutions out of fear of the alternatives. It is, instead, to help bury those institutions and their elite mavens and then fight for superior replacements. As Hayes put it in his book, the challenge is directing the frustration, anger, and alienation we all feel into building a trans-ideological coalition that can actually dislodge the power of the post-meritocratic elite. One that marshals insurrectionist sentiment without succumbing to nihilism and manic, paranoid distrust. Corrupt elites always try to persuade people to continue to submit to their dominance in exchange for protection from forces that are even worse. Thats their game. But at some point, they themselves, and their prevailing order, become so destructive, so deceitful, so toxic, that their victims are willing to gamble that the alternatives will not be worse, or at least, they decide to embrace the satisfaction of spitting in the faces of those who have displayed nothing but contempt and condescension for them. There is no one, unifying explanation for Brexit, or Trumpism, or the growing extremism of various stripes throughout the west, but this sense of angry impotence an inability to see any option other than smashing those responsible for their plight is undoubtedly a major factor. As Bevins put it, supporters of Trump, and Brexit, and other anti-establishment movements are motivated not so much by whether they think the projects will actually work, but more by their desire to say FUCK YOU to those they believe (with very good reason) have failed them. Obviously, those who are the target of this anti-establishment rage political, economic and media elites are desperate to exonerate themselves, to demonstrate that they bear no responsibility for the suffering masses that are now refusing to be compliant and silent. The easiest course to achieve that goal is simply to demonize those with little power, wealth or possibility as stupid and racist: this is only happening because they are primitive and ignorant and hateful, not because they have any legitimate grievances or because I or my friends or my elite institutions have done anything wrong. As Vices Michael Tracey put it: Because that reaction is so self-protective and self-glorifying, many U.S. media elites including those who knew almost nothing about Brexit until 48 hours ago instantly adopted it as their preferred narrative for explaining what happened, just as theyve done with Trump, Corbyn, Sanders and any number of other instances where their entitlement to rule has been disregarded. They are so persuaded of their own natural superiority that any factions who refuse to see it and submit to it prove themselves, by definition, to be regressive, stunted and amoral. Indeed, media reaction to the Brexit vote filled with unreflective rage, condescension and contempt toward those who voted wrong perfectly illustrates the dynamics that caused all of this in the first place. Media elites, by virtue of their position, adore the status quo. It rewards them, vests them with prestige and position, welcomes them into exclusive circles, allows them to be close to (if not themselves wielding) great power while traveling their country and the world, provides them with a platform, fills them with esteem and purpose. The same is true of academic elites, and financial elites, and political elites. Elites love the status quo that has given them, and then protected, their elite position. Because of how generally satisfied they are with their lot, they regard with affection and respect the internationalist institutions that safeguard the wests prevailing order: the World Bank and IMF, NATO and the wests military forces, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, the EU. While they express some piecemeal criticisms of each, they literally cannot comprehend how anyone would be fundamentally disillusioned by and angry with these institutions, let alone want to break from them. They are far removed from the suffering that causes those anti-establishment sentiments. So they search and search in vain for some rationale that could explain something like Brexit, or the establishment-condemning movements on the right and left, and can find only one way to process it: these people are not motivated by any legitimate grievances or economic suffering, but instead they are just broken, ungrateful, immoral, hateful, racist and ignorant. Of course it is the case that some, perhaps much, of the support given to these anti-establishment movements is grounded in those sorts of ugly sentiments. But its also the case that the media elites revered establishment institutions in finance, media and politics are driven by all sorts of equally ugly impulses, as the rotted fruit of their actions conclusively proves. Even more important, the mechanism that western citizens are expected to use to express and rectify dissatisfaction elections has largely ceased to serve any correction function. As Hayes, in a widely cited tweet, put it this week about Brexit: But that is exactly the choice presented not only by Brexit but also western elections generally, including the 2016 Clinton v. Trump General Election (just look at the powerful array of Wall Street tycoons and war-loving neocons which long before Trump viewed the former Democratic New York Senator and Secretary of State as their best hope for having their agenda and interests served). When democracy is preserved only in form, structured to change little to nothing about power distribution, people naturally seek alternatives for the redress of their grievances, particularly when they suffer. More importantly still and directly contrary to what establishment liberals love to claim in order to demonize all who reject their authority economic suffering and xenophobia/racism are not mutually exclusive; the opposite is true: the former fuels the latter, as sustained economic misery makes people more receptive to tribalistic scapegoating. Thats precisely why plutocratic policies that deprive huge portions of the population of basic opportunity and hope are so dangerous. Claiming that supporters of Brexit or Trump or Corbyn or Sanders or anti-establishment European parties on the left and right are motivated only by hatred but not genuine economic suffering and political oppression is a transparent tactic for exonerating status quo institutions and evading responsibility for doing anything about their core corruption. Part of this spiteful media reaction to Brexit is grounded in a dreary combination of sloth and habit: a sizable portion of the establishment-liberal commentariat in the west has completely lost the ability to engage with any sort of dissent from their orthodoxies, or even to understand those who disagree with them. They are capable of nothing beyond adopting the most smug and self-satisfied posture, then spouting clichés to dismiss their critics as ignorant, benighted bigots. Like the people of the west who bomb Muslim countries and then express confusion that anyone wants to attack them back, the most simple-minded of these establishment media liberals are constantly enraged that the people they endlessly malign as ignorant haters refuse to vest them with the respect and credibility to which they are naturally entitled. But theres something deeper and more interesting driving the media reaction here. Establishment journalistic outlets are not outsiders. Theyre the opposite: they are fully integrated into elite institutions, are tools of those institutions, and thus identify fully with them. Of course they do not share, and cannot understand, anti-establishment sentiments: they are the targets of this establishment-hating revolt as much as anyone else. These journalists reaction to this anti-establishment backlash is a form of self-defense. As NYU Journalism Professor Jay Rosen put it last night, journalists today report on hostility to the political class, as if they had nothing to do with it, but they are a key part of that political class and, for that reason, if the population or part of it is in revolt against the political class, this is a problem for journalism. There are many factors explaining why establishment journalists now have almost no ability to stem the tide of anti-establishment rage, even when its irrational and driven by ignoble impulses. Part of it is that the internet and social media have rendered them irrelevant, unnecessary to disseminate ideas. Part of it is that due their distance from them they have nothing to say to people who are suffering and angry about it other than to scorn them as hateful losers. Part of it is that journalists like anyone else tend to react with bitterness and rage, not self-assessment, as they lose influence and stature. But a major factor is that many people recognize that establishment journalists are an integral part of the very institutions and corrupted elite circles that are authors of their plight. Rather than being people who mediate or inform these political conflicts, journalists are agents of the forces that are oppressing them. And when journalists react to their anger and suffering by telling them that its invalid and merely the by-product of their stupidity and primitive resentments, that only reinforces the perception that journalists are their enemy, thus rendering journalistic opinion increasingly irrelevant. Brexit despite all of the harm it is likely to cause and despite all of the malicious politicians it will empower could have been a positive development. But that would require that elites (and their media outlets) react to the shock of this repudiation by spending some time reflecting on their own flaws, analyzing what they have done to contribute to such mass outrage and deprivation, in order to engage in course correction. Exactly the same potential benefit was generated by the Iraq debacle, the 2008 financial crisis, the rise of Trumpism and other anti-establishment movements: this is all compelling evidence that things have gone very wrong with those who wield the greatest power, that self-critique in elite circles is more vital than anything. But, as usual, thats exactly what they most refuse to do. Instead of acknowledging and addressing the fundamental flaws within themselves, they are devoting their energies to demonizing the victims of their corruption, all in order to de-legitimize those grievances and thus relieve themselves of responsibility to meaningfully address them. That reaction only serves to bolster, if not vindicate, the animating perceptions that these elite institutions are hopelessly self-interested, toxic and destructive and thus cannot be reformed but rather must be destroyed. That, in turn, only ensures that there will be many more Brexits, and Trumps, in our collective future. https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/
  20. I was under the impression that most eu regulations and employment laws were driven by corporations who prefer a one size for all approach that they can standardise but which becomes prohibitive to small businesses and limits competition. I would expect the UK to fall into line with all of those laws to maintain investment.
  21. Wifey on 5 live "in turmoil" for voting leave on the promise of £350m a week coming back for the NHS and now being told that's not going to happen. If only she'd don't the most basic fact checking before voting.
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