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Because there's not much profit for his boys in it Corbyn's argument for Homeopathy is embarrassing... Aye, owt organic is going to make you better, now drink up some piss and eat your shit. But surveys suggest 97% of GPs have prescribed placebos though. Three quarters, do so weekly.

This is the one being shared... http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/owen-smith-iraq-war-working-2338066 "He didn't know whether he would have voted against the war, as the previous MP Llew Smith did." But that was 3 years after. He definitely would have at the time This on the NHS.. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/07/entirely-fake-owen-smith/

Aye, him, the right wing, NHS hating, Iraq war supporting, pharmaceutical lobbying new hope for the left.

Not really, shitty Desmond. I was winging it at school and I wing it on here.

But I'm looking at polling and by election results that say different. you're giving your opinion/fears. Which you're entitled to. I'm not saying labour won't lose and that I don't lament the division. I don't believe it's a slam dunk that Eagle (or even Jones) improve Labour viability drastically.

Pure maths and stats degree. Freely admit I've forgotten 90% of it but I can still tell the difference between growth and exponential growth

Not to mention that recent polling has been proven utter bollocks frequently. Actual local results since Corbyn got in suggest that there would not be a total collapse of the labor vote too though. Problem there is small sample size. But there is evidence that the people claiming the vote would collapse aren't necessarily right. What evidence is there to support their case? That the left of the eighties failed to build an effective opposition. I wonder if print and TV media had a greater stranglehold on opinion then though. Different world now.

More 18 year old voters, less 60-100 the longer the wait for the next GE.

But Corbyn must go as he'd be defeated in a landslide. [/received wisdom]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/13/corbyn-critics-destroying-labour-party-members

Our new foreign secretary... "The President is a cross-eyed Texan warmonger, unelected, inarticulate, who epitomises the arrogance of American foreign policy." "For 10 years we in the Tory Party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing. Virtually every single one of our international sports were invented or codified by the British. And I say this respectfully to our Chinese hosts, who have excelled so magnificently at Ping-pong. Ping-pong was invented on the dining tables of England in the 19th century and it was called Wiff-waff!

Did Cameron lift you out of poverty in the end then?

Lerner mother fucker! Do you back him?

Adding his other account to the Toontastic list seems to have stirred him into another bout of shouting at the moon. Answer the question, accountant!

I remember Murray once said something interesting about Newcastle that gave me pause as i'd never liked him. Called out Ashley for exactly what he is, rather than buying into the "saved the club" shite most distant observers bought into and hammered fans for.

Bob Mortimer just started a show on saturdays with his mackem "get in the sea" podcasting mate. Listened to a lot of the podcasts and they were canny, gave up when they kept doing the same schtick every week. haven't listened to them on Talksport, but "get in the sea" just RT'd Murray's resignation, so I assume he and BM are thinking about their position.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-says-he-wouldn-t-want-a-left-wing-labour-party-to-win-an-election-10406928.html

That was excellent. Watched it from start to finish. I'm not fussed on where the family trees join up and going back generations to see who begat who and who killed who, but I love anything where they consciously use costume, dialogue, music, location, set design etc. to callback to earlier moments as a reference. I would never in a million years pick up on them, but when aficionados point out the care and attention to that sort of detail that goes into things it blows me away. Same as with The Sopranos & Breaking Bad. It's a real cinematic attention to detail, but stretched over years rather than hours it's amazing to me that people connect the dots. Unless the producers give it all away immediately themselves?

https://youtu.be/kUtO5Ygu7y4 Apologies if already posted, but..rofl

Exactly, we're not half way through the time Labour spent in the wilderness last time around. They can continue another 12 years of internal squabling and maybe find someone to unite them when memories ave faded, or split. Daft to blame Corbyn supporters for where things are. Non-Corbyn MPs put him on the ballot because they were out of touch and never thought the membership would swing that violently away from the centre. And why did they do that? 2008. 2010 & 2015.

I'm agreeing with what you've been saying all week man. The Tories don't all unite behind a candidate because they're willing to put aside fundamental differences to get into power at any cost. They have shared principles by and large. Those priniciples are to the right of centre. The only issue that has led to splits within the Conservative party for decades have revolved around European membership. Isolationists have won the exit and europhiles have a remainer PM. All happy. Traditional labour found Blair a bitter enough pill to swallow but accepted it when it won elections, but the complete capitulation on what caused the economic crisis in 2008 means that the lie is cast in stone for a long time to come that a labour government couldn't manage the books, even as it embraced the centre. Takes a couple of generations for betrayals like that to be forgiven.

the Tories are a party whose only internal struggle is how far to the right they go. Complete agreement on dismantling the social safety nets we have and keeping taxes low for the non-poor. Only question is whether they get to kill foxes, discriminate against gays or "send the buggers back" while they do that. The labour crisis is that there aren't shared core principles any longer. May should be rubbing her hands whoever won, because the warring factions will continue to fight for the party until there's a split either way.

If people write "Corbyn" and put a cross against him on their ballot paper, I wonder if the spoiled ballots would win.

Vote in secret to block the person from running they know would win Yay democracy!

"Michael Crick?"