Happy Face

Right you are.

Who was that kid who maintained we'd walk it from day 1? To think of the shite you all gave him. Mind I think we're spunking on our chips a bit soon given the christmas program is yet to come and our problem isn't the quality of the first team, which hasn't been tested, but the quality of the squad which will be asked a lot of soon.

My auntie's

Just thought about what those two cost the club, and I reckon it's at least £6m a season, more likely to be getting on for £8m

I caught myself day dreaming before half time like. I just zoned out, don't know how long I stood there with a glazed look in my eye. But there was nowt going on on the pitch to distract me. The surprising thing is not that you'd leave at half time, but that you'd turn up expecting anything else in the first place.

Why? That's £12m more than he paid for it, the squad is worth a quarter of what it was if he's lucky, crowds are down 20%, season ticket sales are at their lowest in decades as are corporate box sales and advertising, there's a worldwide recession, other premier league clubs can't pay their players wages and we're as likely to be relegated next season as we are to go up this. He'd be better off pocketing the £40m and sitting on his investment. Butt and Geremi are out of contract next season so that'll be the end of the most egregiously overpaid players he inherited. His cost cutting, profit maximising plan will havve reached fruition...and at that point he's going to sell? Fat fuck is here for the long haul.

Love Phoenix Nights, but he's done nowt to suggest he's got any other strings to his bow. Max and paddy was shit and 'crap pop' can only go so far. I'm sure he'll mention "garlic bread" and push lots of merchandise. A lass at work said it was £44 for a ticket His stand up had become catchphrase comedy as unimaginative as Little Britain. Also, it was embarrassing watching him hawk tickets on Children in Need, and pushing his merchandise on the promise of £1 from each item going to charity. The audience didn't know whether to applaud or boo.

I've not been AWOL, I'm just an ignorant fuck. Happy Birthday chaps.

Which just got Serbia. Should be alright as long as we avoid the Jormans.

Slovenia We play second in Germany's group then.

Algeria We'll piss this

Day before my Birthday. Fucking gerrin.

Diana Ross - Chain Reaction Proper filth

I like the bit where his dad was shocked by the foreign appetizer LOL

Aye, there is. Last years number one sold upwards of 500,000 - there are less than 50,000 in that group and I doubt any more than 1/3 of them will actually buy the song Depends who wins X-factor. Leon Jackson 'only' sold 275,000 the year before last though.

Given the coverage we get it's to be expected that axeman sees 'our' torturing of innocent civilians as something clean, with no lasting effects, done with a grave heart only out of extreme necessity for the greater good of humanity. While 'their' torture of innocent civilians and soldiers is a particular kind of evil, without purpose, which stems from a barbaric bloodlust that is inseperable from their religion.

Humanitarian? Definitley the wrong word for what the US show their 'prisoners'. What makes you say the US keep them alive? That's completely false. The difference is, Al Qaeda (for want of a better all encompassing word) release the footage, the US restrict the media and sweep it under the carpet. I didnt know that (probably due to the media ban i would assume). Torture is still wrong, but neither side will stop doing it. no amount of hand wringing by the likes of you and i will change that. as i said earlier, Shitty "Both sides do it" is not a cogent argument when we are the invading, occupying force killing anyone that objects, as well as lots who don't. I thought we were there as liberators??? The very notion. That's one thing Obama has done like, stop spouting that shitty line. as well as sending more troops in i guess........... And aren't we all completely unsurprised when this sort of "news" comes out just when support for the surge is needed?

Humanitarian? Definitley the wrong word for what the US show their 'prisoners'. What makes you say the US keep them alive? That's completely false. The difference is, Al Qaeda (for want of a better all encompassing word) release the footage, the US restrict the media and sweep it under the carpet. I didnt know that (probably due to the media ban i would assume). Torture is still wrong, but neither side will stop doing it. no amount of hand wringing by the likes of you and i will change that. as i said earlier, Shitty "Both sides do it" is not a cogent argument when we are the invading, occupying force killing anyone that objects, as well as lots who don't. I thought we were there as liberators??? The very notion. That's one thing Obama has done like, stop spouting that shitty line.

Humanitarian? Definitley the wrong word for what the US show their 'prisoners'. What makes you say the US keep them alive? That's completely false. The difference is, Al Qaeda (for want of a better all encompassing word) release the footage, the US restrict the media and sweep it under the carpet. I didnt know that (probably due to the media ban i would assume). Torture is still wrong, but neither side will stop doing it. no amount of hand wringing by the likes of you and i will change that. as i said earlier, Shitty "Both sides do it" is not a cogent argument when we are the invading, occupying force killing anyone that objects, as well as lots who don't.

Humanitarian? Definitley the wrong word for what the US show their 'prisoners'. What makes you say the US keep them alive? That's completely false. The difference is, Al Qaeda (for want of a better all encompassing word) release the footage, the US restrict the media and sweep it under the carpet.

Would take too long for the fallout to clear so we could go back for the oil.

I think you missed my point (perhaps intentionally). Torturing people doesn't help keep ANYONE safe. Consider if you were a peaceful farmer minding your sheep and a relative of yours was plucked off the streets of Baghdad, rendered to Cuba, and tortured to death without charge or trial. Would that make you more or less likely to take up the fight against the people that did it?

tbf Happy, i dont think you can compare Guantanamo to the other concentration/death camps mentioned in this thread. scary stats there. not sure what i would answer to those questions as i have relatives in the army who have been on front line duties. So a little bit of torture and murder is ok? At least he had the good grace to put a respectable face on his torture programs. I'd have thought that having family on the front line would ensure your opposition to the use of torture, given it's power as recruitment propaganda for radical jihadi's.

Very interesting Pew Survey out today http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/569.pdf Loads of fascinating stats, including.... The proportion of the public saying torture is at least sometimes justified against suspected terrorists has increased modestly over the past year. Currently, 54% say torture is at least sometimes justified to gain important information from suspected terrorists, compared with 49% in April and 44% in February. So Obama has done the job of legitimising torture for a further 10% of Americans where the majority now believe concentration camps like Guantanamo and the abuses that occur can be justified. Only a quarter think torture should not be tolerated.

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