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So has Simon Cowell not melted then?

Can anyone provide a link to Llambias' program notes? Ta

Poor lass

Not as hard as the hit in 38. oof ya fuckah! I take it you mean #37? I meant 35

Not as hard as the hit in 38. oof ya fuckah!

This is the crux about it like, forget any equitable notions, the US spends almost twice as much as their GDP on healthcare as we do and don't receive anywhere near twice the quality of care (using just about any indicator available). It has to change or the country will bankrupt themselves. Which I would find quite amusing were it not for the millions who have almost no healthcare there. Is total healthcare spend being reduced or the federal deficit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_r...ional_proposals Exactly. Total spend is going UP. Of course it is, to cover millions of more people. It has to. Rather than subsidise it by raising taxes, providing a government run alternative or imposing meaningful restrictions on insurers or big pharma, the deficit is being shifted to the poorest 40 million consumers by holding a gun to their head and forcing them to pay. Anyway, this all gets away from the point. What's on the table is better than nothing. It covers millions of people that wouldn't be covered. Small mercies and that. But the fact that it benefits big business financially and only costs the poorest citizens (the poorest just above the popverty line) is what Obama was aiming for all along. Thats called 'raising taxes'. How else do you think these curves cross the negative for the long-temr budget impact? My bad. Fixed my post.

Part 2 no 27

GG's just posted a follow up article where he says it far more eloquently.... The health care bill is one of the most flagrant advancements of corporatism yet, as it bizarrely forces millions of people to buy extremely inadequate products from the private health insurance industry -- regardless of whether they want it or, worse, whether they can afford it (even with some subsidies). In other words, it uses the power of government, the force of law, to give the greatest gift imaginable to this industry -- tens of millions of coerced customers, many of whom will be truly burdened by having to turn their money over to these corporations -- and is thus a truly extreme advancement of [the] corporatist model. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...tism/index.html

This is the crux about it like, forget any equitable notions, the US spends almost twice as much as their GDP on healthcare as we do and don't receive anywhere near twice the quality of care (using just about any indicator available). It has to change or the country will bankrupt themselves. Which I would find quite amusing were it not for the millions who have almost no healthcare there. Is total healthcare spend being reduced or the federal deficit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_r...ional_proposals Exactly. Total spend is going UP. Of course it is, to cover millions of more people. It has to. Rather than subsidise it by raising taxes, providing a government run alternative or imposing meaningful restrictions on insurers or big pharma, the deficit is being shifted to the poorest 40 million consumers by holding a gun to their head and forcing them to pay. Anyway, this all gets away from the point. What's on the table is better than nothing. It covers millions of people that wouldn't be covered. Small mercies and that. But the fact that it benefits big business financially and only costs the poorest citizens (the poorest just above the popverty line) is what Obama was aiming for all along.

Terry Trousersnake

"Ask your doctor for" adverts for prescription drugs should be banned like. http://www.allbusiness.com/insurance/healt.../5893743-1.html

This is the crux about it like, forget any equitable notions, the US spends almost twice as much as their GDP on healthcare as we do and don't receive anywhere near twice the quality of care (using just about any indicator available). It has to change or the country will bankrupt themselves. Which I would find quite amusing were it not for the millions who have almost no healthcare there. Is total healthcare spend being reduced or the federal deficit?

She can't be racist. One of her best friends is Alexandra Burke. "That's no defence is it? It's like saying. I can't be a murderer, one of my best friends was killed. Or i can't be a paedophile, one of my best friends is six......no, hang on...." [/sean Lock]

FYP He makes a living making 16 year olds cry on telly ffs.

Happy Birthday and that

I put my first single(s) in the other thread. First albums were... Queen - Live at Wembley Brian May - Back To The Light Genesis - The Way We Walk Dad rock all the way.

You'd like to think it was a fight he couldn't win and backed down on. Unfortunately there's no backdown involved. The point of the article is this is what Obama has aimed for from the get go....and that's not an idea that the author has just concocted after the fact, it's what he's been saying since all the evidence suggested it back in August.

I'm not saying the plan being put in place is the status quo and i don't think anyone in the article is. What I meant was if all that had been announced was no public option, then that would be no different to as it stands currently and there'd be no reason for stock prices to soar. Insured people are going to get a better deal than they ever had before, which is great, but that's going to be paid for by gifting the insurance companies almost 50million new customers...by law. Which I think is a better deal for the insurance companies (who will continue to charge every customer a premium to subsidise their advertising, their profit margins and their fights to avoid paying out on claims) than it is for Americans....and the stock market agrees.

Not so much the lack of a public option. That would be maintaining the status quo. It's the fact everyone will be forced to buy insurance that's driving the price up. Another 47million customers guaranteed is it? Then there's the ban on importing cheaper drugs which would have saved America billions, and was a common sense idea endorsed by Obama as a candidate which he's back tracked on now he's president.

Republican? The anti-Obama agenda isn't controlled by the far left, its the far right that feeds them. This story hasn't been concocted by the Republican party. It's the Obama plan.

It's an insurance company blow job that's seen their stock prices rocket as predicted for months.

Republican?

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...ouse/index.html

It might be. The prisoners could be moved elsewhere, and he'll have rectified that failure, but there'll still be torture and rendition to a host of other locations. As predicted.... http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_gr...itmo/index.html

Most viewed youtube videos of 2009.... 1 - Susan Boyle - >120m views 2 - David After Dentist - >37m views 3 - JK Wedding Dance - >33m views 4 - New Moon Trailer - >31m views 5 - Evian Babies - >27m views Figures refer to global viewing, and the highest views for an individual video, rather than copies aggregated together. I've only seen one of them.