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Numbers with those digits could refer to many things in the public interest. Date/Time stamp. Financial sums etc. Many of the donors have benefited enormously from their contribution and so they are fair game. http://observer.com/2016/09/wikileaks-guccifer-2-0-obama-sold-off-public-offices-to-donors/

Potential as yet unmet. The US military have confirmed during Manning's hearing that their reflexive argument made after EVERY leak that leakers have "blood on their hands" has no basis in fact. Only one Afghani killed by the Taliban was claimed to have been such a victim, turned out he wasn't even named in the leaks. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130731/15572324025/us-military-admits-no-one-died-because-mannings-leaks.shtml

Robert Finch is delighted that the email address no-one looked at on his companies website is getting so much publicity, and the only price he has to pay is cancelling a credit card, not even that if no-one has his expiry date or security pin etc.

Has Robert Finch complained that this has caused him any tangible harm? Collateral information, but damage?

Yep, which was that?

Any examples?

I don't know. Are you aware of specific examples of private citizens who have complained they don't? I've read that the Pentagon weren't truthful about military leaks from Wikipedia... http://wlcentral.org/node/379 Wikileaks perception of who is fair game might differ from others, but I've not heard of any case where someone outside the public eye made complaint about their inclusion or came to any harm as a result. Always happy to see examples. But if they do exist, I would have to weigh up the individual harm against the greater good of an aggressive press devoted to shining a light on wrong doing.

You don't know the difference between private citizens having transparent leadership, rather than leaders being shrouded in secrecy and citizens privacy being entirely eroded?

Unless you use TOR, Signal, Telegram, Proton Mail etc

http://uk.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-20000-seth-rich-dnc-2016-8

That was my summary I don't think highlightiong the flaws in DNC encryption is the goal though. There are multiple interested parties all working on their own aims. Without the wrongdoing, there wouldn't be an issue though. That's the root cause that we should shine a light on, not the sequence of events and competing interests that get it into the public domain. The Wikileaks reward for a conviction in the murder of Seth Rich is an interesting one as well. Was he genuinely their leaker or is he a Russian patsy?

We all knew they weren't impartial. The emails revealed the extent to which they were lying and spreading misinformation to undermine Sanders. I don't think the wider public necessarily assumed that was happening.

The other point Carlin makes is it doesn't matter who wins either. The US population questioning it's democracy and whether they are as free as they think are could be the greater target. Could the union be divided to the extent that it splits?

Wonder if Trump ever wonders to himself why Putin wants him in.

You think the US aren't hacking and interfering in other nations elections? Puts the US government in the position of arguing AGAINST their own electorate being informed. Espionage will lead to leaked docs including falsehoods.

But the necessary is far more valuable than the harm from the "dangerous". I'd gladly cancel a credit card and be sent a new one if I was included in a leak that revealed wrongdoing. There's a discussion to be had on the balance. Snowden specifically avoided Wikileaks because he didn't like the "dump" approach. I don't think the focus should be on the leakers more than the wrongdoing revealed.

Dan Carlin's latest Common Sense is good on this topic btw.... http://www.dancarlin.com/product/common-sense-309-a-bodyguard-of-lies/

You expect Wikileaks to bury truthful information that highlights wrongdoing and leads to the resignations of high (the highest?) ranking DNC officials?

I've been vocal in my defence of Wikileaks work. Your turn.

Yeah, I think the leaks are great.

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Wikileaks have dropped another massive load of DNC emails. DNC response is to tell people not to read them as they'll be full of Malware.

Nah, but the offensive match thread titles really have us playing like a unit.

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