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Not for me and Leazes. We couldn't give a fuck if Mike Ashley spunks £500m to get us to win summat. We'll thank him for it and he'll get his money back if he sells a top club. And I thought I was talking out my arse when I claimed you and others are wanting the club to sustain itself? Is it what everyone wants or what nobody wants? You're being slippery like an eel mr chez. Its arse talk because the opposite is that you dont want the club to sustain itself which doesnt make sense. If the opposite point of view can never be agreed with (who wants an unsustainable anything?) then you need to change what it is you're asserting i support. If a club makes a loss each year, it will collapse unless subsidised. If your major gripe is the lack of subsidy, thats fine but lets be clear about the position. You want an owner that subsidises the club (you'll need to be quick as the rules are changing) and i want to engage in debate more based in reality. Is that being slippery? It would be daft to complain about lack of subsidy, given the amount he's spent subsidising the club so far. But the method of subsiidy is the problem, it's been retroactive rather than proactive. He's a shite gambler, he won't back us when it'll move us on to the next level, he'll only cover the losses when he gets relegated. And he's setting us up to not make a loss when relegated so he's not liable again, rather than making sure it doesn't happen again.

Not for me and Leazes. We couldn't give a fuck if Mike Ashley spunks £500m to get us to win summat. We'll thank him for it and he'll get his money back if he sells a top club. And I thought I was talking out my arse when I claimed you and others are wanting the club to sustain itself? Is it what everyone wants or what nobody wants? You're being slippery like an eel mr chez.

These were the decisions that mean he can't pin the blame for the mess he inherited on Shepherd, as he has tried to. More resons to be less than impressed with him. Hoping for the best based on no evidence of any ambition. I'll be convinced when it happens and will credit you specifically for your powers of positivity.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-spo...astle-united.do I just picked the 3 names I've read most support for Ashley's current approach from. Apologies if you disagree with Ashley's on this specific goal.

I wouldn't actually mind if Ashley was honest about his intentions. I wouldn't like it if he said the aim was only to survive, but it wouldn't make us any different to a dozen other top flight clubs and I wouldn't any more vehementlty anti-Ashley than a Wigan fan is anti-Whelan. My problem comes when they spout shite such as Llambias has recently about challenging for europe every season. There's such a discord between what they say and what they do and always has been.

Cough cough, I haven't "embraced him" either. I believe the imposed financial policy was due to the shite left behind previously and I am pleased it's been gotten to grips with, furthermore I believe it was an absolute necessity. And yes I know the relegation made it worse, but it was beyond shite to start with. What his long term intentions will be, will be seen by 1st Sept. Either he want's to push on, or he want's to continue to trim to sell. We don't know yet. There is absolutely no proof as yet of "selling club" or lack of ambition IMO. There might be come 1/9. Nolan didn't move to West Ham because of ambition he moved because of the money/contract length (preposterous money/contract length an all). If WH and us had offered exactly the same deals (say 3 years at £45K a week) does anyone really think he'd have moved. The whole game is riddled with cunts top to bottom, owners to players, I don't trust any of them. What is the purpose of spending 5 years getting to grips with the clubs finances and getting the club spending within means...only then to go out and spend what is needed to start climbing higher? If he's not doing it now, and he's not done it before, he's never ever going to do it. And all the promises of 5 year plans, pushing on and steady growth are more lies. Nolan said what he wanted, the club said no and the manager didn't fight to keep his captain. Nolan might have accepted less....if anyone had shown an interest in retaining his services...much the same as Carroll. We don't know if he's not doing it now, we will by 1/9 The last sentence is beyond niaive The first sentence is beyond naive.

I know this is a stupid thing to say since its why we're all here but if we could "forget" the football for a minute then if his current plan means his exit is sooner rather than later then a part of me wants it to succeed as medium/long term I hope that would be for the best. Of course these signings have to work for that which is still a big doubt for me. Not sure why anyone thinks a new owner will be better. I like everyone on this board would love to be back to the good old days of Sir John Hall and KK but it just isnt realistic that those times can be re-created. They came about after a period of 40 odd years of being shit. Like most of you, I grew up with this shit club and the constant disappointment so when SJH & KK came along it was like a lottery win. Even if I live to be 100 those circumstances can not be recreated as Ive already been there and done that. It will never be as good again for me. There's no chance of Paul Wynn shagging a real woman, but he doesn't turn gay. Though I don't know that for sure.

Cough cough, I haven't "embraced him" either. I believe the imposed financial policy was due to the shite left behind previously and I am pleased it's been gotten to grips with, furthermore I believe it was an absolute necessity. And yes I know the relegation made it worse, but it was beyond shite to start with. What his long term intentions will be, will be seen by 1st Sept. Either he want's to push on, or he want's to continue to trim to sell. We don't know yet. There is absolutely no proof as yet of "selling club" or lack of ambition IMO. There might be come 1/9. Nolan didn't move to West Ham because of ambition he moved because of the money/contract length (preposterous money/contract length an all). If WH and us had offered exactly the same deals (say 3 years at £45K a week) does anyone really think he'd have moved. The whole game is riddled with cunts top to bottom, owners to players, I don't trust any of them. What is the purpose of spending 5 years getting to grips with the clubs finances and getting the club spending within means...only then to go out and spend what is needed to start climbing higher? If he's not doing it now, and he's not done it before, he's never ever going to do it. And all the promises of 5 year plans, pushing on and steady growth are more lies. Nolan said what he wanted, the club said no and the manager didn't fight to keep his captain. Nolan might have accepted less....if anyone had shown an interest in retaining his services...much the same as Carroll.

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He's lost money every single year he's been here man Leazes. You give the nugget too much credit when you suggest he's running a profitable operation. By contrast your mates took millions upon millions out of the club year on year, even as we reported losses up to £30million a season. They new what they were doing to make money out of football. and don't forget that when the Halls and Shepherd took over the club, it brought an end to decades of european glory, silverware, Cup Finals and the signing of top footballers too. Bastards eh. Not sure how that relates to what I said. I'm not using personal profit as a stick to beat anyone, just pointing out that your attempt to do so actually does your argument more harm than good. And as the overall argument your making is one I generally agree with I wouldn't want you to harm that argument by accident. yes, I get your point, different way of looking at it though. But jaysouthernmag isn't really clear what level of "competition" he is referring to here ? Does he think our "level" is that of clubs such as Bolton and Blackburn, because I'm sure as fuck I have never expected either Mike Ashley or the Halls and Shepherd to compete with the sugar daddies of Chelsea and Man City. He appears to think we should be grateful to Mike Ashley for premiership survival, maybe he should clarify that despite having the 3rd biggest support in the country and the 14th biggest revenues in europe when he bought the club, survival in the premiership is actually, in his opinion, our true level. Couldn't agree more. Kevin Keegan's approach is that if you aren't competing to win, then you aren't competing. Hanging around and hoping for better than tenth place isn't competing. It should be the approach of anyone in sports. But there seems to be a view that it's just about the taking part. This view gives rise to the notion that we have to embrace Ashley because he can't afford to invest at a level demanded to be succesful, and that seems very odd to me. If I go and buy Arsenal, drag them down from their current lofty heights and use the excuse that I personally can't afford to compete with richer individuals and corporate owners - whatever the size of the stadium, catchment area and history - then I'd expect to be hated. I have no business buying one of the biggest clubs in the country because I don't have the means to provide for that club as it requires. If Ashley didn't think it would be this expensive then it's his mistake we're all paying for. Ridiculous that some fans are embracing this. Hooray, balanced books and the odd away win against Bolton. I honestly don't see how you equate describing the situation as it is with "embracing it". I've pretty consistent in saying I think Ashley should stump up his own cash as that's the only way he's ever going to get it back, daft sale not withstanding. Would he have spent the unplanned 100m if the debt hadn't been there? - I don't know but now we find ourselves with someone who has decided to be cautious and that is to our pain. In practical terms there's not much we can do but hope for a change of mind from him or another roll of the owner dice - I think he knows he's unloved but I don't think that's a factor either way. What I do think is that even if it does mean accepting to some degree a return to the bad old days where we never expected anything but just travelled in hope, suddenly demanding a "right" to finish above a list of probably 6 clubs is a bit unrealistic - no matter how positive we all want to be. I don't think you've embraced him. Thinking more of CT, Toonpack and Chez who all seem well pleased Ashley wants the club to be able to support itself ASAP, even on a championship income.

He's lost money every single year he's been here man Leazes. You give the nugget too much credit when you suggest he's running a profitable operation. By contrast your mates took millions upon millions out of the club year on year, even as we reported losses up to £30million a season. They new what they were doing to make money out of football. and don't forget that when the Halls and Shepherd took over the club, it brought an end to decades of european glory, silverware, Cup Finals and the signing of top footballers too. Bastards eh. Not sure how that relates to what I said. I'm not using personal profit as a stick to beat anyone, just pointing out that your attempt to do so actually does your argument more harm than good. And as the overall argument your making is one I generally agree with I wouldn't want you to harm that argument by accident. yes, I get your point, different way of looking at it though. But jaysouthernmag isn't really clear what level of "competition" he is referring to here ? Does he think our "level" is that of clubs such as Bolton and Blackburn, because I'm sure as fuck I have never expected either Mike Ashley or the Halls and Shepherd to compete with the sugar daddies of Chelsea and Man City. He appears to think we should be grateful to Mike Ashley for premiership survival, maybe he should clarify that despite having the 3rd biggest support in the country and the 14th biggest revenues in europe when he bought the club, survival in the premiership is actually, in his opinion, our true level. Couldn't agree more. Kevin Keegan's approach is that if you aren't competing to win, then you aren't competing. Hanging around and hoping for better than tenth place isn't competing. It should be the approach of anyone in sports. But there seems to be a view that it's just about the taking part. This view gives rise to the notion that we have to embrace Ashley because he can't afford to invest at a level demanded to be succesful, and that seems very odd to me. If I go and buy Arsenal, drag them down from their current lofty heights and use the excuse that I personally can't afford to compete with richer individuals and corporate owners - whatever the size of the stadium, catchment area and history - then I'd expect to be hated. I have no business buying one of the biggest clubs in the country because I don't have the means to provide for that club as it requires. If Ashley didn't think it would be this expensive then it's his mistake we're all paying for. Ridiculous that some fans are embracing this. Hooray, balanced books and the odd away win against Bolton.

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He's lost money every single year he's been here man Leazes. You give the nugget too much credit when you suggest he's running a profitable operation. By contrast your mates took millions upon millions out of the club year on year, even as we reported losses up to £30million a season. They new what they were doing to make money out of football. and don't forget that when the Halls and Shepherd took over the club, it brought an end to decades of european glory, silverware, Cup Finals and the signing of top footballers too. Bastards eh. Not sure how that relates to what I said. I'm not using personal profit as a stick to beat anyone, just pointing out that your attempt to do so actually does your argument more harm than good. And as the overall argument you're making is one I generally agree with I wouldn't want you to harm that argument by accident.

He's lost money every single year he's been here man Leazes. You give the nugget too much credit when you suggest he's running a profitable operation. By contrast your mates took millions upon millions out of the club year on year, even as we reported losses up to £30million a season. They new what they were doing to make money out of football.

I like the positivity in the topic title. Suggests there are players we aren't willing to entertain offers for.

There's non of his albums I particularly love as a whole, but there's always one or two tracks on every album he does that I can put on repeat for weeks and weeks without getting tired of it. none New laptop i got off work is crap. Misses out loads of letters unless I type geet slow and pummel the buttons. It also seems to duplicate my posts.

I think we can challenge for Europe but it will be C.L. it will be Europa league, we should be competing for a top 7 finish every season 7th spot isn't europe. Nor is 6th. Toontoon's post credit's Mike with a hard nosed insight none of us clowns that have watched the club for decades can possibly have. That being we can't threaten the top 5 as we don't have the support. Despite having the third highest attendance average in the league. But then the club are saying we can compete with the 6 teams that fight it out for those 5 places. If Mike had a clue, why doesn't he educate the fans on reality, rather than insisting we'll push for it and spend £35m+ etc.

There's non of his albums I particularly love as a whole, but there's always one or two tracks on every album he does that I can put on repeat for weeks and weeks without getting tired of it.

There's non of his albums I particularly love as a whole, but there's always one or two tracks on every album he does that I can put on repeat for weeks and weeks without getting tired of it.

Somebody better tell Mike that... “Mike knows where we should be in four or five years,” managing director said. ”We want to be challenging for Europe every season.”

Apart from skin tone and their well kept teeth they're about as similar as Charles and Harry.

You can take the driver out of the taxi.....

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