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It's an absurd position to take that they concentrated on one deal for 7 months waiting till the last day or 2 to switch targets, without ever saying "look, either do the deal or we have to move on" after 4 months or summat. The idea they think this (lie) excuses the idiocy of such an approach is most telling about their incompetence.

"Give us £100K first, then we'll listen to what you have to offer" It's a whole new revenue stream no-one else thought of.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was pardoo who's asked dekka to do it. Knew he'd be slaughtered for spending nowt.

Shepherd hired a black boss.

Who's been fired for criticism like? Allardyce - Said Nowt Keegan - Walked out Kinnear - took ill Shearer - contract expired Hughton - Perfect gent

I don't think it's an accident you'll say "I had reservations" which I think almost everyone did to some extent and makes you look serious, and follow it with "they could not see the obvious" which makes others look ridiculous...despite it not being obvious, just something to have reservations about. Those are 2 very different things and you know they are. Worst of all, your taking out your N-O arguments against people on here. It's a shame you can't rub their noses in it if you were telling people over there what it would come to in late 2007, but you weren't telling anyone on Toontastic that....by your own admission. I'm not purposely "taking out NO arguments on here", generally speaking, the posters on here are far more knowledgeable and older than on NO, and the admin people approach the running of the site with far more maturity too. I'm just responding, but while I'm aware that most of my posts are about the politics of the club, I'll repeat what I've said before, which is that it interests me, far more than playing pick your best team with the likes of deano for instance, or automatically declaring any old French player to be the next David Ginola just because we've signed him. People also still say "I don't reply to posts", when I DO reply to the vast majority of the ones I see. You can't have it both ways. I didn't post on here between February and November 2007 because of something which happened that got sorted out in the end to the satisfaction - hopefully - of both parties. I don't know if I would have had the same sort of opposition to the views I had at that time too - well, I probably would, but not with so many people. I don't disagree with YOU about football, do we disagree ? I've got no problem with you replying to posts. I like it when you do, the posters people complain about most are generally the ones that keep me coming back for infuriatingly circular debate. But, you claim to have been banned for your anti-Ashley posts on N-O. You never made any anti-Ashley posts on here until late in Keegans stint. Now everyone knows what Ashley is up to you're bigging up how you told us all from day one and how we wouldn't listen. Thing is, you never told anyone on TOONTASTIC, and TT posters aren't the ones to talk down to like idiots if people on N-O disagreed with you about anything. We only disagree on stuff that hasn't happened, so there's no right or wrong. For example, I think Shepherd would have the club in financial ruin by now or would have been forced to sell at a lower price than he got from Ashley. I get the impression you think we'd be thriving having spent our way into europe if he was still in charge.

I like chatting about the past with Leazes. Not sure what else has been more interesting in the world of NUFC over the last day or 2.

I don't think it's an accident you'll say "I had reservations" which I think almost everyone did to some extent and makes you look serious, and follow it with "they could not see the obvious" which makes others look ridiculous...despite it not being obvious, just something to have reservations about. Those are 2 very different things and you know they are. Worst of all, your taking out your N-O arguments against people on here. It's a shame you can't rub their noses in it if you were telling people over there what it would come to in late 2007, but you weren't telling anyone on Toontastic that....by your own admission.

Beautiful post Leazes...

You've got to keep Leazes in check tbf. One minute you can say Ashley deserved a chance upon arrival and the next he'll tell everyone you said "Anyone but Shepherd, I hated the 90's at NUFC". This is the crux of it for me. His recent digging up of old threads (in response to your posting that one where he predicts that Ashley will probably now go on to better Shepherd/Hall’s Champions League achievements) is a typical obsessive overreaction too. Digging them up to try and re-assert when he ‘first called Ashley’ or whatever misses the point spectacularly; he’s shown later to be saying he thinks we’ll be back on for Champs League under Ashley. Now only the other day he was agreeing with OBG that it was a Sports Direct model and this was all obvious to him from the start of his reign-well no it clearly wasn’t as he changed his prediction about Ashley’s ambitions when Keegan was appointed. There’s nothing wrong with this per se (a shifting narrative where you constantly re-evaluate based on current information), in fact Chez does this and it stimulates good debate on here imho, but on the other hand if you’re Leazes and what you’re essentially doing is trying to claim some sort of clairvoyance it makes you look a tit- because what you claim you’ve always had some sort of intractable belief about is shown to be something that in reality you’ve also argued the complete opposite of at intervals. “Oh yes, I’ve always claimed he was doing this the Sports Direct way, and before anyone else might I add.....apart from the time when I thought he was going to beat our Champions League achievements to date. Can you just all ignore that bit please? Ta.” Classic cake-and-eat-it. Going back to what you said above, that’s the essence of his “I was right you were wrong” nightmare patter. It involves re-inventions of the past both in terms of what he’s said himself and what other people have said about a subject. What’s even more tragic is that nobody else is arsed, and yet he’s been genuinely obsessed with it for 4 or 5 years now. Have to admit I see it differently. The post from LM that keeps getting dragged up to me seems to be a potential admission of being wrong. ie it wouldnt read badly if it had started "well looks like I was wrong all along about Ashley...." yet people are pulling it out and using it as a "LM backed Ashley" type of post. tbh its exactly the same thing that LM does to the likes of yourself and Gemmill ie has a memory of a post or two from the past that show you to have one view and then uses that to say you were that way all along. Most people can show the nuiance of their position and LM ignores it, picking a comment to death and ignoring the rest. LM can't produce ANY posts to show he had Ashley pegged, because he didn't post on here in late 2007. Having said that, by quoting Leazes from Jan/Mar 2008 ("We could push champions league"/"time will tell" respectively) I wasn't trying to show that he was fully supportive of Ashley and actually predicting big things. Just that he's lying when he says it was clear to him and should have been obvious to everyone from day 1 what Ashley was all about. Not really any need for claims like that either, he WAS among the first to lose any faith in the bloke and was spot on, so he doesn't have to exagerrate his powers of foresight like that.

Depends who you talk to. People on here seemed to think it was no good. Bigger nerds seem to like it a lot more.

And Director. Still haven't seen Attack The Block. He's written on the new TinTin for Spielboig too. Best not forget about Black Squadron though. Fuck Hollywood and get back on the radio.

I didn't bring the thread up to say Milner's proved anyone right or wrong btw. If anything it was to show I was probably wrong to think the majority could see what Ashley was about by then. Consensus then seemed to be...a good price to get, it'll deffo be reinvested....and if Leazes was saying otherwise on N-O then it's to his credit. To be fair, a lot of people were STILL talking about reinvestment after Carroll was sold too, but most of this forum see what Ashley is about now and realised immediately there was little hope of that.

Watched Armadillo last night. Pretty tense shit. Available on 4OD for a month. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/armadil...afghanistan/4od Not sure who's more mental, the soldiers running around with guns, or the cameramen running around without them.

Leazes Wept! Suppose they'll be collectors items rather than summat you'll wear at the match.

http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/midlan...-sports-direct/

Aye Dunno if its been reported in the chronicle.

Tidied. Leazes wept from now on.

£3.97 at Tesco http://www.tescoentertainment.com/store/dvd/-/8:526872/ Bloody bargain

"This is what happens.....when you fuck!....a stranger!...in the ass!"

Remember the position the club were in when they took over though ? Are you also aware that very few clubs aren't in debt, and remember that the major part of our debt was due to the expansion of the stadium, which financial people say was very well financially structured ? Or do you think we should still be playing in a 36,000 ground ? In 1992 the club were nearer going bust than they will ever be, and that was as a result of decades of selling our best players and having no ambition. So which would you prefer ? What will you say if we run the club with balanced books and see all the top players going to the other top clubs ? If thats what you want, then this season, and the quality of players we brought to the club in the summer, isn't a blip. Its about to become the norm. Personally, I don't want that. HF...........see this ? How many people have bought into EXACTLY this scenario in the last 3 years ? [One which you, like myself, has argued massively against] So it was based on the Summer 2007 deals...when we brought in Barton, Enrique and Beye. SELLING those players is the evidence things have gone dowenhill for me. Your standards are MUCH higher.

It was not the case? You were never behind Ashley? The new owner of the club that had not made a single decision...you were against him? You can berate others for (you imagine) saying "anyone but Shepherd", but I'd say "nobody but Shepherd" would be equally stupid. What was it that informed your decision to refuse to back the new man? Selling Dyer and Parker the summer he arrived?