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I reckon he'll get some sort of compen if he's sacked outside the bottom 3. 9 points from the last 7 games. I reckon we'll breeze to that in the next 7 too. Relegation will be about 38 points.

They were aghast no doubt

Pardew has no plan b but you're posting your idea of a team with "anyone but santon" You're a child.

For every Ben Arfa there's an Obertan. For every Cabaye a Ranger.

For the deaf.

I make no excuses for Pardew. I said we were playing shite last season when you said he was England material. Still don't see the point in sacking him though. Quality Managers will only work with players that are forced on them when those players are top quality and they're on a top wage. Managers trying to get the best out of budget buys at least want some input on those budget players.

I think it was Sammy recommended song kick and I used the site for a bit but I recently got the app and it's fucking great. Checks my Google play account for all the artists I like and cross references then with any locations I specify and automatically sends me a message when someone I like is coming to town.

The arena is shit.

There's been a further update on the article itself....I'll not post all of it, but the link is there... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus

Top Gear has some class music on it's soundtrack to be fair....none of your middle aged dad rock.

Indeed they do, but again, you seem to be focusing entirely on the grotesque state of affairs in muslim countries while painting a rosy picture of the freedoms non-muslim countries enjoy. In Russia the Orthodox church has been guilty of forcing children into 19 hour days of labour and abuse. As mentioned, America has state approved executions of the weakest and must vulnerable in society. The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. They have 5% of the earths population but 25% of the prisoners. It also incarcerates more of it's youth than any other nation on the planet. Those freedom hating Muslims. The Danish Cartoons were surely a muslim equivalent. But despite death threats, I don't know of any of those involved suffering violent retribution though. The riots that are sparked by such things are not really about the comics either. Like the London riots, there is a spark that gets it started, but there is MUCH more that leads to the kind of anger that perpetuates the demonstrations and turns them violent. The problem with not being interested in the politics and then blaming Islam for all the worlds ills, is that Muslims like Hart are highly motivated by politics. By the fact we are bombing many muslim nations. There are no equivalent opponents because we are not killing Sikhs or Buddhists or Taoists around the globe.

South Park did not back down from showing images or mentioning Mohammed. Comedy Central made the decision above their heads. You seem to have been making the point that no artist would dare offend muslims. My point is that this just isn't true. Salman Rushdie Rushdie did it. Matt Stone and Trey Parker were happy to, but the corporation that airs their show refused. Then there is this... http://en.wikipedia....i/Mahomet_(play) Or this... http://en.wikipedia....Platform_(novel) or this... http://en.wikipedia....A_God_Who_Hates Or any of these... http://en.wikipedia....itical_of_Islam All got a response in one way or another, some to MUCH greater degrees than others...and probably as the authors expected. The Life of Brian was banned in several countries including UK autorities (Torbay only relinquished the ban in 2008). The Last Temptation of Christ was banned in many countries and remains so in a few. Christian Fundamentalists launched Moltov cocktails at a theatre showing the film. I don't pull the racist card against factual statements. Your pithy comment about the lad getting paralysed wasn't racist, it's was a sad fact. Broad generalisations about hundreds of millions of individuals tend towards prejudice though. Christians do not a pose unique danger because American courts sentence children and handicapped individuals to death. Similarly muslims are no more a unique threat because of the awful case you and Chez mention.

The only realistic threat on the geo-politcal stage is the west though. We are the ones bombing muslims in 6 or 7 middle eastern and African countries at the moment. I just finished watching "The Trap" last night. Another Adam Curtis 3 parter about notions of freedom. The final part concentrates on postitive and negative freedom. The notion that a few elites know what is best for nations around the globe and should force freedom upon them, through violent supression of opposition where necessary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_(TV_series) For millions of Muslims freedom is not democracy, it's freedom from international interference. The west forcing democracies on them is the danger, not the reaction to it.

I think there probably needs to be a debate on the use of handicap spots.

As supportive of the war against Islamic nations as Harris is, Saudi Arabia is one of our closest allies, so the invasion he backs is clearly not in any way one of liberation from the brutality we lament. I don't know how you can cite Jerry Springer (as I did) where the creators ended up in court defending themselves from STATE charges of blasphemy here in the UK as an example of christian tolerance as opposed to some imagined Muslim musical. I do like "Muslim, The Muisical" though.... Salman Rushdie says that the Satanic Verses probably would not get published now, but it was back in '88. That does not suggest the ancient religion has an entenched violent reaction to any criticism, but one that has been whipped up in recent history. Salman Rushdie himself has not come to any harm. I am sure he has had many polite conversations with other Muslims too.

Those are disgusting things, I despise as much as you, so do not take the following as a defense of any of them. But it's worth looking at each, considering the church position on them and then comparing it with other church positions on equally vile things. FGM Still not illegal in christian nations like America. In Europe it's only outlawed in the United Kingdom, Sweden, and Belgium. Rather than necessarily a Muslim requirement it is a cultural throw back. Many Middle Eastern countries do not practice it at all, like Libya, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran, and Iraq. It's illegal in Egypt. It is most prevalent in Africa where large contributors are tradition, honour, myths on the health benefits, the rite of passage and the gifts bestowed when it's done. Now compare that with the official stance of the Christian church on the spread of Aids. They are wholly dismissive of the fact and STILL insist that the simple use of a condom will send the wearer to hell. Two awful traditions causing untold harm around the world, the Christian church condones and contributes officially to one of them with some influential members in opposition, Islam opposes and educates officially on the other with some influential members in opposition. General Mysogyny I think this is pretty vague. There was just a new pope elected and there were no women up for the job that I'm aware of. Polygamy is rife with Mormons. In Scientology, L Ron Hubbard says A society in which women are taught anything but the management of a family, the care of men, and the creation of the future generation is a society which is on its way out. The historian can peg the point where a society begins its sharpest decline at the instant when women begin to take part, on an equal footing with men, in political and business affairs, since this means that the men are decadent and the women are no longer women. This is not a sermon on the role or position of women; it is a statement of bald and basic fact. Domestic violence and honour killings are part of Sikh culture. The Muslim view of Women is reprehinsible...but they're not alone. Sharia Many of the laws in sharia are repellent such as the illegality of homosexuality - but I do not know of a religion going that currently tolerates homosexuality. It's easy to forget how recently it was illegal around the entire world. The USA only legalised homosexual activity in 1994. Dozens of countries not under Sharia law still have a zero tolerance to it, largely in Africa and the Middle east, but also in South America and the far East. Freedom of Speech is also bashed too. Blasphemy laws in Sharia are off the hook, but while the Quran prohibits insulting the profit it does not demand the death penalty for blasphemy. Similarly though, in the UK you can be charged for blasphemy. My favourite comedian Stewart Lee fell foul of this archaic law in 2007 when he had to answer charges of Blasphemy from christian groups for his production Jerry Springer: The Musical. I think the law in the USA can be equally as barbaric as Sharia, to this day. In the 2000s the USA were executing twice as many people as they were in the 60s. They execute handicapped peoplein the US. Since 1976 22 Americanshave been executed for crimes committed as children. They imprison thousands for life after 3 petty crimes. Again, none of this is a defence of the Islamic religion. But I think the assumption that it is worse than any other religion clearly has a basis in prejudice when you compare it with other equally vile institutions. I think there is a view that Catholics and Jews on a whole are good people despite the teachings of their churches and political leadership, because they are us....but muslims are on the whole enthusiastically violent and supportive of the worst parts of their religion...because they are the other.

You'd think none of our players had any European experience. Of course they soft diving fannies. You cannit go in like we were often.

Should be 1 - 3

Tensions running high. Back to your corner groups boys.

If we can get another away goal it'll be a canny result. Come on. Keep ya heads.

CT plays bass in the Spencer Davis Corner Group. He's done a 3 month stint in Vegas with the Blue Man Corner Group

Well I was wrong. Impressed by our endeavour.

Doubt we'll be pressing in the Europa away from home. Think that's Pardew trying to mislead them.....also goading them with the 8th place comments....inviting them to press and we'll be using the same old tactics of trying to hit them on the break.

You're working with ifs and buts and vague nations of truth. The quotes in the article about Islam being a particularly abhorrent religion are about as clear an example of prejudice as you could come across.

I am disagreeing with you and NJS. Its not true and it is racist.