Happy Face

The Tiger Lillies - Start A Fire Jesus wept! The Clash - Janie Jones

We were just as unentertaining in the second half against Bolton. Is it shite or the Allardyce way? Personally I think it's the latter, but Arsenal won a title by being dull. If we'd nicked a goal it would be "how ingenious Sam is with his professional approach" rather than "it'll take time for the team to get used to his system"?

It was deafening at kick off, was confined to a few areas for 15 minutes, then became deathly, except for a minute when Owen got on the pitch. Better atmosphere than most home games last year though.

Serious question. 4 points from 2 teams that finished above us last year is good news to my ears. I think we've probably got a manager that fits our current level. But if you think we're at the start of a long term revolution, where do you see Big Sam taking us longer term? It seems to be the general consensus that Saturday was an understandably poor performance from a team in transition. Big Sam needs time and encouragement to put his mark on the team*. In my opinion the performance on Saturday was one that I think sums up Allardyce's approach to the game, and will see us achieve our modest goals for the year. Tight(ish) at the back, hoofed forward when there's no other outlet, the best performance from a forward was the bruiser who was willing to get knocked about (and punished by the ref for it). We all knew it wouldn't be pretty, the question is, how long will the boo-boys be in the minority, and will Ashley/Mort be bigger men than Shepherd in facing down the pressure? *I'm not sure I really buy the whole "A manager needs time, look at Alex Ferguson...he was almost sacked before making Man U what they were" argument. Seems he's the single exception to the rule and it's getting a bit trite. Looking at all the longest term managers, generally either success comes from a revolution that starts strong and keeps up the momentum, or a club stays happy with a manager that keeps them at a certain level. Allardyce himself was an immediate revelation at Bolton when he went there.

Sad but true, theres a group of supporters who revel in it, they'll boo at half time, full time at individual players and the prime example is the Dyer situation where its more important to these people to show him how much they hate him then it is to provide and uplifting atmosphere for him and the rest oft he team to try and help them win. Its never going to go away unfortunately, even if we went on a great run of wins, the second a poor draw or defeat came along the booing would be there, just not as loud as if it was shit every week. While not agreeing with the booing or joining in with it, it's understandable, given the length of time we've gone without a goal at home, and the fact we tried 4 strikers and none of them had a shot on goal. I thought the noise we made at kick off and for the first few minutes was immense, seemed like everyone was REALLY behind the team and new management. The lack of response from the players would have angered a few of the more impatient fans who want instant success. You're defending absolute morons though really. I mean, it's only understandable if you allow for how absolutely clueless the people doing the booing are, given the circumstances. I think it was as moronic on Saturday as it was at any point last season.

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=375659

Sad but true, theres a group of supporters who revel in it, they'll boo at half time, full time at individual players and the prime example is the Dyer situation where its more important to these people to show him how much they hate him then it is to provide and uplifting atmosphere for him and the rest oft he team to try and help them win. Its never going to go away unfortunately, even if we went on a great run of wins, the second a poor draw or defeat came along the booing would be there, just not as loud as if it was shit every week. While not agreeing with the booing or joining in with it, it's understandable, given the length of time we've gone without a goal at home, and the fact we tried 4 strikers and none of them had a shot on goal. I thought the noise we made at kick off and for the first few minutes was immense, seemed like everyone was REALLY behind the team and new management. The lack of response from the players would have angered a few of the more impatient fans who want instant success.

M.I.A. - Kala

Don't tar everyone with your broad brush, I was getting shite for saying this months ago tbh. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=324517 Not that it pleases me, might still come back to haunt me in the long run though, hopefully.

I'm not sure I'd go that far yet. They've had a good start, but a long way to go yet (not even Sven's luck can hold out for that long ). Love the way some people blinker their opinions of Sven on their disatisfaction of his role as England coach. His club record is awesome and it's no suprise to me that Citeh have started the season as they have. As is his international record imo.

Sure there was, we came up against a good, organised side and didn't lose. ok we were poor in the final 3rd but so what, its a work in progress, last year we would have lost that game. Last season we won it. Bring back Roeder! And the pie man! "Glenn Roeder doesn't think Glenn Roeder could improve things."

I found that completely unwatchable. Why?

Sure there was, we came up against a good, organised side and didn't lose. ok we were poor in the final 3rd but so what, its a work in progress, last year we would have lost that game. Last season we won it.

tbf, there was little evidence of the good work yesterday.

The one about the Ant invasion? Reading a book at the moment which has quite a lot of interpretation of it. http://www.wallflowerpress.co.uk/publicati.../lm_8_intro.pdf http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465203/ http://www.eyeforfilm.co.uk/reviews.php?film_id=11792 Ah well. If you do like the sound of the '54 version... http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/111073/-/Pr...html?P36=5Y36Q6

The one about the Ant invasion? Reading a book at the moment which has quite a lot of interpretation of it. http://www.wallflowerpress.co.uk/publicati.../lm_8_intro.pdf

Bringing Out The Dead What an absoloutley fantastic film. Never bothered myself with it because I'd always been led to believe it wasn't one of Scorsese's best, but it shits all over his recent output. It's his leanest film in the last 20 years clocking in right on the two hour mark, and I think he should get back to being this succinct. All his Oscar chasing fodder like the Aviator and Gangs of New York that push three hours are flabby and without energy. This is as full of adrenaline as Mean Streets or Raging Bull. The Soundtrack is excellent, when Janie Jones kicked in the hairs on my neck went up. It's hilariously funny ("I swear to god you'd better hold this or I won't kill you!" ), whilst also being unflinchingly bleak. It's very reminiscent of Taxi Driver (Paul Schrader screenwrote both), without ever feeling like a rehash, in fact the freshness of the camerawork belies the fact that Scorsese was entering his 4th decade as a director at the time. Far too underrated, the fact it got no Oscar nominations in the year Shakespeare in Love cleaned up just confirms it as a classic. And just £3.89

Project A series http://revamp.dddhouse.com/cms/images/prod...0A%20Series.jpg Wheels on Meals http://revamp.dddhouse.com/cms/images/prod...%20JS%20Big.jpg I Am A Cyborg but that Is OK http://revamp.dddhouse.com/cms/images/products/DCN0104.jpg

Alan Green is going dippy about Rob Styles.

Amy Winehouse? Topped off with http://www.buycostumes.com/Category/0/Prod...ductDetail.aspx

Even worse wast the 'spectacle' in the East Stand before the game. It was fucking shite. More embarrassing than the booing tbh

Man U one down.

"...and obviously we hope there will be no injuries from that."

Go as your Avatar.