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How do they arrive at that figure? However they did it, it seems flawed. Last year we finished below 3 of the teams in the tier BELOW ours and lower than everyone in the same tier. Plus it doesn't seem to account at all for the form of the teams played against this season. Playing a team performing above expectation this year or at their regular high standard should be accounted for.

You gotta be shitting me! Hold the back page eh?

So which group of people were you talking about again?

Happy birthday Is it meenzer as in "beans meanser heinz", or me-enzer as in "I'm getting me end away tonight"

Fink Tank is class man. Finkelstein is da bomb.

I posted an article a few weeks ago that showed how much Allardyce had overachieved at Bolton. Now here's one that says he's still doing it at Newcastle...even taking into account the weaker opposition we've played. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle2886671.ece

Hadn't read the match thread.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/Owen-o...p-to.3496955.jp Games in the next month... Liverpool H Blackburn A Arsenal H Birmingham H Fulham A It's the Shields gazette like so you can bank on him being fit for Blackburn.

Just have one then.

Had a play with my mates yesterday. Whatever technical flaws it might have (2 MP camera? WTF? ) it's still gorgeous. Not sure if it's £270 gorgeous when I've never paid for a mobile phone in my life though.

BTW. Don't buy either, get one of these http://www.hifix.co.uk/sku.lasso?&item...0e01512dae182fe

The way it was sold to me was... Expensive (like £3-£4K +) plasmas are better than expensive LCDs Cheaper LCDs are better than cheaper Plasmas. Dunno if that's true like.

Scroobius Pip - No Commercial Breaks I liked Thou Shalt Always Kill but didn't think he'd be to stretch his schtick over an entire album, but i have to say I enjoyed it.

Care to explain I'll even help you. 1. utterly pointless: why? 2. misplaced: how? 3. arrogant: how? 4. patronising: how? (5. will Alex spot your mistake and/or comment on it? ) On the basis he posted above. Why do you persist in asking for clarification but provide none of your own? WUM innit.

I think the confusion might have come from your use of the word "already" in your first post. It suggested to me you believe generations that have followed have let down their memory, rather than being a lament that there are very few left with any memory of the time.

As you're still trying to pretend I said something I didn't not (and build a strawman argument around your falsehood), how can I be wrong? And it was "utter horror" not "true horror" at least have some idea of what you're trying to lie about. Freudian double negative?

Where did I say people had forgotten WW1? Or that people didn't remember those that had fallen? Oh yes. No where at all, that has nothing to do with that I said. Keep trying to peddle your bollocks by all mean though. The non-existent falsehood you just MADE UP. Oh aye I'm sure you'd like me to let you get away with like that. But if you are going to keep posting lies then it's more than fair enough for me to point them out. I thought when we remembered the millions who died before their time the "true horror" of it all was inherent in that. You obviously don't think so. But that's where you're wrong see.

I'll help you with "wrong" It was the day that the nation came out to remember the horror of WW1 and the sacrifices made. The clue is in its title "remembrance day". And you said people had forgotten. If people have forgotten, who were those people on my telly at the cenitaph? The "inflammatory" and "looking for a bite" follow from that blatant falsehood. Now do us a favour and pipe down about it.

Lend him one of your guitars

Treat him.... 4 Monty Python films across 7 discs for £15 4 Bruce Lee films across 6 discs for £33

www.ladbrokes.com most likely.

Part of it yes, but as much as well it's to remember to remember correctly. Few now really see the run up to WW2 as it was seen at the time socially and politically, as we see it in a post WW2 way (after the war drums of that and the creation of perhaps the defining bogey man of modern times and another for much of the next 50 years). Nothing can be viewed with hindsight the way it was viewed as it occured. Because as Heisenberg (who lived through the war) tells us, your looking at it changes it. History and physics may share some things in common but the uncertainty principle is not really one of them. It's hard to view things as the happen, and it is hard to view things with hindsight in the same way, BUT lessons can however be remembered and preserved and indeed things can be understand and avoided with hindsight. It is in fact the best way most likely. Again rubbish, it's just a comment of basic AGREEMENT on the sadness of the old guys passing away and with them the direct memories and our cultural perspective as time marches on. But even if you're convinced it is "holier than thou" it is still NOT "wrong" or "inflamatory" or "looking for a bite" or whatever else has been said. I refused to engage in mindless name calling until ghouls like yourself started to mass. It was after all not supposed to be a slanging match thread. I didn't call you any names, I tried to engage you in conversation. Since you've been incapable of making any concession to the fact that your remark was in any way inflammatory though, even after I've made a concession to your more fully explained point of view, tells me you have no interest putting this to bed but would rather drag out the pointless attention seeking. I'll leave you to it mate. As the old saying goes, don't argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

Season 6 just finished in the US this weekend. Not sure about UK showing, but it'll be on More4 first I guess.

Part of it yes, but as much as well it's to remember to remember correctly. Few now really see the run up to WW2 as it was seen at the time socially and politically, as we see it in a post WW2 way (after the war drums of that and the creation of perhaps the defining bogey man of modern times and another for much of the next 50 years). Nothing can be viewed with hindsight the way it was viewed as it occured. Because as Heisenberg (who lived through the war) tells us, your looking at it changes it. Again their you go with saying what you WANT me to say, no I'm not. But equally as those last old guys go, so do the people that knew the genuine horror of it - my point is more that we should remember that horror for exactly what it was (and do our very best to keep that memory alive - in ways like the Holocaust is keep alive), not just as names on a stone once a year. I'm sure everyone agrees, and put so much better there than "People have already pretty much completely forgotten the utter horror of WW1." which is a holier than thou attitude bound to raise peoples hackles. Especially when you refused to qualify it for a few pages.