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The ratio changes, but we weren't pulling off Rooney, Robinho, Berbatov type huge signings while on the up, however you remember it. On your own terms, we were spending between half and three quarters of what other top English clubs had paid when we were up in third and sixth.

Les Ferdinand? I forgot the champions league used to be for the Champions. We came 6th the season before he signed anyway iirc. But 3rd the year before. Erm, yes. And? 3rd and 6th place finishes are to me positions of strength which can attract good quality players worth more than half the record transfer fee of the time. 14th place and relegation fights not so much. That needs Andy Cole and Peter Beardsley style bargain spotting. Why are you talking shite? We signed Andy Cole for nearly £1.8m, while we were in Division 1, when Dean Saunders transfer record was still £2.7m. Shearer took the record later that year at £3.3m, and we strengthened signing Fox and Peacock for around £2.5m each the same season. Clearly we define things differently. Villa got £5.5M for Platt before we bought Cole. So Torino got £13m for Lentini, what's the difference. Lentini's not British and no British club was involved. If you want to compare it with worldwide record signings instead though, I think it makes them look even more cautious

Les Ferdinand? I forgot the champions league used to be for the Champions. We came 6th the season before he signed anyway iirc. But 3rd the year before. Erm, yes. And? 3rd and 6th place finishes are to me positions of strength which can attract good quality players worth more than half the record transfer fee of the time. 14th place and relegation fights not so much. That needs Andy Cole and Peter Beardsley style bargain spotting. Why are you talking shite? We signed Andy Cole for nearly £1.8m, while we were in Division 1, when Dean Saunders transfer record was still £2.7m. Shearer took the record later that year at £3.3m, and we strengthened signing Fox and Peacock for around £2.5m each the same season. Clearly we define things differently. Villa got £5.5M for Platt before we bought Cole.

Les Ferdinand? I forgot the champions league used to be for the Champions. We came 6th the season before he signed anyway iirc. But 3rd the year before. Erm, yes. And? 3rd and 6th place finishes are to me positions of strength which can attract good quality players worth more than half the record transfer fee of the time. 14th place and relegation fights not so much. That needs Andy Cole and Peter Beardsley style bargain spotting.

Les Ferdinand? I forgot the champions league used to be for the Champions. We came 6th the season before he signed anyway iirc. But 3rd the year before.

Les Ferdinand? I forgot the champions league used to be for the Champions.

I want the club to be sensible with my money. You want them to bring in trophy signings with my money. Good of Ashley to listen to his customer if it's the case. By the way, I've said it before, I'll say it again Collocinni's fee is the most this club has ever spent on a defender. oh dear. Aren't you pleased Rooney signed for ManU while we are struggling to avoid relegation. They are really in the shit manu aren't they, 700m quid in debt or something. Sack the board. You've got your non-trophy signings, but we are better off than manU aren't we ? You really couldn't make up such a load of cliche ridden crap. BTW, we broke our transfer record for a defender 3 times under the Halls and Shepherd.......didn't stop us buying other players too........ Peacock, Woodgate, Barton..... Still, don;t let the facts get in the way of your opinion whatever you do Most Man U fans do want to sack the board, aye... http://www.malcolmglazer.com/ too many trophy signings then. They will have to sell Rooney, Ronaldo, Nani, Tevez, Ferdinand, Vidic and Berbatov now. That'll show them they should be buying a squad instead. I've always said you should spend big from a position of success. Expensive desparation buys don't work out. You buy the best for the level you're at to move onwards and upwards, then you replace them with the best at the next level once you reach it. The Halls/Shepherds never got to within halfway of the British transfer record until we'd almost won the league and were safely in the champions league. Sorry but I don't agree. I don't think reaching for the top players when you have the 3rd biggest crowd in the country [or we did under the Halls and Shepherd] and qualifying for europe on a regular basis, is so wrong in fact I think its a necessity to attempt to do it as often as possible. Neither do I. When you're qualifying for Europe regularly, that's just the time to reach higher. At a time when the transfer record was £5.5M, we never went above £2M until we were on the verge of Europe though. Is Ashley being any less sensible than Hall/Shepherd?

I want the club to be sensible with my money. You want them to bring in trophy signings with my money. Good of Ashley to listen to his customer if it's the case. By the way, I've said it before, I'll say it again Collocinni's fee is the most this club has ever spent on a defender. oh dear. Aren't you pleased Rooney signed for ManU while we are struggling to avoid relegation. They are really in the shit manu aren't they, 700m quid in debt or something. Sack the board. You've got your non-trophy signings, but we are better off than manU aren't we ? You really couldn't make up such a load of cliche ridden crap. BTW, we broke our transfer record for a defender 3 times under the Halls and Shepherd.......didn't stop us buying other players too........ Peacock, Woodgate, Barton..... Still, don;t let the facts get in the way of your opinion whatever you do Most Man U fans do want to sack the board, aye... http://www.malcolmglazer.com/ too many trophy signings then. They will have to sell Rooney, Ronaldo, Nani, Tevez, Ferdinand, Vidic and Berbatov now. That'll show them they should be buying a squad instead. I've always said you should spend big from a position of success. Expensive desparation buys don't work out. You buy the best for the level you're at to move onwards and upwards, then you replace them with the best at the next level once you reach it. The Halls/Shepherds never got to within halfway of the British transfer record until we'd almost won the league and were safely in the champions league.

Seems like you're just manipulating stats to suit your argument. Will that do? Not so much manipulating them as framing them positively. I'm a glass half full kind of guy. It's true that if you go back 21 months then Shepherd matches the £44M as Owen comes into the equation. Ashley has to spend something in January to keep his lead.

I want the club to be sensible with my money. You want them to bring in trophy signings with my money. Good of Ashley to listen to his customer if it's the case. By the way, I've said it before, I'll say it again Collocinni's fee is the most this club has ever spent on a defender. oh dear. Aren't you pleased Rooney signed for ManU while we are struggling to avoid relegation. They are really in the shit manu aren't they, 700m quid in debt or something. Sack the board. You've got your non-trophy signings, but we are better off than manU aren't we ? You really couldn't make up such a load of cliche ridden crap. BTW, we broke our transfer record for a defender 3 times under the Halls and Shepherd.......didn't stop us buying other players too........ Peacock, Woodgate, Barton..... Still, don;t let the facts get in the way of your opinion whatever you do Most Man U fans do want to sack the board, aye... http://www.malcolmglazer.com/

Is something broke, or have I stunned you all into silence. Here's one for you to use in the pub. In Ashley's 19 months at the club, the cost of inward transfers has been £44M. In the Shepherds' last 19 months at the club, the cost of inward transfers were £17M.

I want the club to be sensible with my money. You want them to bring in trophy signings with my money. Good of Ashley to listen to his customer if it's the case. By the way, I've said it before, I'll say it again Collocinni's fee is the most this club has ever spent on a defender. An alarm has just gone off in Leazes towers. Well Leazes thinks Shepherd and Hall carpeted Newcastle with £20 notes while Ashley's spent his season ticket money at the roullette wheel. Despite the fact the previous owners averaged less than £10M a year while in Europe for most of it and Ashley seems to have spent over £10M in a little over a year himself with no European income.

I want the club to be sensible with my money. You want them to bring in trophy signings with my money. Good of Ashley to listen to his customer if it's the case. By the way, I've said it before, I'll say it again Collocinni's fee is the most this club has ever spent on a defender.

I'd assume the vast majority are paying for that on DD, rather than all 3 years in advance.

Watched it again last night too. First hour is great fun, second hour more difficult, but no less quality.

Which would actually take our transfer dealings into a net profit. I can't remember whether he went just before or after the club was taken over but that makes very little difference anyway since he went the summer Allardyce arrived. Parker left a week before Barton and Rozenhal arrived so the £7M recouped was quickly spent then some (£8.7M for the two). I'm not saying he's spent loads or anything by the way. Remember that 50 pager on N.O. when I was pontificating we needed to spend 100m over two windows to compete? its all so depressing. And its also so depressing that during that 50 pager you are talking about, the amount of people who actually opposed the notion of actually competing with the other clubs, and still do in lots of cases. Things are very bad, the worst they have been for years and years. The worst thing is we can't do nothing about it, not a thing. I'm fed up now of trying to tell some of these people to be honest, the whole business is just indescribably sad, how its all turned out. I honestly thought I would never see the day again when this club behaved like 2nd raters again, I thought such days were gone for good. Just shows we all learn something, you just never know whats round the corner with this football club. Aye. People don't understand the basics ie it's better to spend 30m net in one go to give the first 11 a boost rather than in dribs and drabs over 2/3 years. Look at what the teams in the bottom half with us spent.... Newcastle £20M West Brom spent £24M Blackburn spent £12M Mackems £20 odd million Spurs £40 odd million Man City £65 million Bolton about £20 Million Even Stoke spent £15M None of them have been able to push on up the league though. Now look at the top half.... Fulham £20 Million Boro less than 10M Hull less than 10M The teams that have managed to push up the league haven't spent more or even as much as those left down the bottom, and the ones who were already there haven't gone crazy. I'm not saying you shouldn't spend money, of course you must. But the assumption that throwing £40 million at the situation would have made everything ok or will do in January is a fallacy. The ones that have pushed on have all kept the same manager for a year like. Unlike us, Tottenham, Man City and Blackburn who should be up there. Maybe that should be our priority.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7746501.stm Change I can believe in? Bollocks. Timothy Geithner - Worked for Kissinger, Lawrence Summers, at the IMF, arranged the rescue of Bear Stearns, involved in Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, South Korea and Thailand. Lawrence Summers - Clinton's Treasury secretary, ardent proponent of free trade and globalization thogh he signed a memo acknowledging that "free trade would not necessarily benefit the environment in developing countries", supports Andrei Shleifer (Russia's privatisation program fucker-upper).

BIF BAF BOUGH!

Perfect.

They've bailed out the banks, will they bail out the rest of us? Vat down to 15% Booze tabs and petrol duty up so no change. NI up Highest rate of income tax up Inject an extra £20bn into the economy, or 1% of GDP, funded in part by an extra £5bn in efficiency savings and a big increase in government borrowing That's a no then.

Are we really getting clog? Guardian - "Newcastle [were] wonderfully organised and feverishly committed, [they] deserved their reward. Progress has been clear. His side, so porous over the first few weeks of the campaign, boasted rare assurance at Chelsea with Michael Owen operating in midfield and their back four outstanding. Shay Given excelled when called upon; the Irishman's only real moment of panic came when he slipped on the artificial turf in the goalmouth and almost carried Frank Lampard's looped free-kick over the line. Otherwise all was solid with another step taken towards restoring Kinnear's managerial reputation." Times - "Newcastle United were the only winners on a frustrating afternoon, as Luiz Felipe Scolari put it afterwards, and the same goes for the respective managers. Joe Kinnear’s standing is the highest it has been for almost a decade after becoming the first Newcastle manager to take a point at Stamford Bridge in seven years, while the doubts are emerging about his opposite number on Saturday. Kinnear is is getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Habib Beye was a rock at the back, Danny Guthrie competed manfully against opponents of far greater ability in midfield and Michael Owen can never have run so far in a match, even if there is no sign of his pace and sharpness returning." Independent - Lampooned on his arrival, Kinnear has quickly got his players handing buckets up and down from the pump and the fires are gradually being doused. Here they blunted Chelsea's ornate midfield blades with an epic display of obduracy. he appears to be giving this team a bit of heart."

Paavoharju - Yha Hamaraa

Still can't kick or catch tbh.

...and Boro can call off the game until Riggot, Mido and Huth are fit.