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I've stood up for his team selections/substitutions. I think they've worked more than they've failed. And I've stood up for his record when compared to the last 3 managers. But he's talked a whole load of shit. When you look at the statement NUFC released after Keegan went which listed all the things he was and wasn't permitted to talk about in the press and what his remit was, then Kinnear seems to have overstepped ALL of those boundaries.

That's the word I was thinking of, category.... http://www.wba.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HomeTi...~419980,00.html

Is it not our fault? Are we still a tier 1 team that attract tier 1 prices?

Kinnear's bad but comparing him to Hitler is harsh. Or would it make him Neville Chamberlain?

Maybe he spoke to the agent. Wouldn't that be tapping-up? I'm sure we wouldn't be nefarious like that.

Adam and Joe on listen again http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00gf...Joe_03_01_2009/

Anyone else catch it? Recommended... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00gk...Worlds_Collide/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7810804.stm

.com have been on the case.... http://www.nufc.com/2008-09html/2008-12-28liverpool-h.html

Kung Fu Panda - A let down. A few chuckles but nothing to bring about an audible laugh. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - A really, really good laugh. I enjoyed it immensely, especially the sequence on the island where Captain Jack is about to be eaten and the one where they unearth the chest and fight over it in that water wheel rolling forever. It's great fun throughoutl despite it being a sketch show sequence of arbitrary tasks entirely unrelated to one another that end abruptly before arse ache sets in. The less said about the acting the better and the director still thinks he's doing TV ads, but the score and the effects are fantastic. Looking forward to part 3 now.

Woo hoo, can't wait to see what crowd THAT pulls in.

Jonas is raping them here.

Is he good like?

If Gordon Ramsay was tossing burgers at McDonalds he'd probably look for a move too. Thank christ Shay persevered the last four years or we might already have been in the Championship.

Jonas dropped?

Is what, what I want? Mike Ashley out? No, a splinter non-league club, and Mike Ashley still in charge. I've got ideals too, but I tend to compromise them for my own benefit. So even though Adidas pay slave wages to underage kids in sweatshop conditions, I buy their trainers because I love them 3 stripes and trefoil. Even though Wallmart use their monopoly to drive down prices across communities, put local businesses out of work, drive down wages and employ similar slave labour to addias, Asda is now the only local supermarket, so I shop there. If you've more principals than me and the other 52,000 that went on Sunday, all power to you, I can't see you changing anything though. The Iraqis that run my corner shop are always short changing me too btw.

Its simple economics, nothing to do with drugs or mental state. We're already 5 or 6 thousand down through apathy alone arent we? The premise is absolutely spot on, the clubs with 25,000 crowds have fuck all ambition and dont have our wage bill or running costs. Im not a mackem, Im a fully paid up season ticket holding toon fan who is making a pathetic, futile gesture and cutting his nose off to spite his face, but I can take solace in the fact Im not bending over and taking it up the bum from a fat lying cockney who treats us with disdain and Im made it quite clear he'll never get another penny out of me until he's gone or he puts things right. For the record I dont in a million years think we'd get half to stay away, nor would I ever wish it to happen under any circumstances ideally, but if we wanted to get him out I guarantee it would get him out. We're less than 4 thousand down on last year (51,321 average in 07/08 has dropped to 47,434 so far this year).

Is that what you want at Newcastle? Not sure why you use this as an argument when what protests those clubs have had have been completely fruitless in getting rid of new owners. I was supporting Newcastle long before Mike Ashley arrived, and I will do long after he's gone. Fat twat isn't going to stop me having a laugh with my mates on a Saturday afternoon while he's here, no matter how little he invests in success.

Of course it will man It will affect Ashleys pockets by: Reduced income via sponsorship. Matchday income would be down by the people still getting tickets weekly, Yearly or whatever and then all the food, merchandising beer sales he'd lose out on. But most importantly the value of his asset plummets, millions and millions would be knocked off. You're off your mash. Even if you were right though and 50% of fans agreed (rather than just over 0% as seems to be the case), Do you think a premier league club can't get by on 25,000 attendances? Almost half the teams in the Premier league average less than 30,000. I reckon you're a mackem, they'd love to see us get crowds as shit as theirs, but we don't, because we're the greatest football supporters the world has ever seen

I cant think of a single example where the fans wanting the owners out and continue to go has got them what they want, look at Liverpools 2 Year protest or Man Utd's? Two new football teams created out of it like. Its really simple you want him gone, do something, you dont, continue to go as normal as though nothing has happened. What would not turning up do, especially for those that have already paid? Reduce sponsorship, matchday income, tv revenue, hinder player recruitment and purchase as well as sending out the message to Mike Ashley that when its time for renewal you wont be, the club wouldnt be worth what he paid for it (and Im not talking over £200m). Its his club, its his money every single gesture hits him in the pocket. But we the fans are the clubs greatest, some would say only asset, without us the club is worth fuck all. Obviously not everyone wants him gone and there are so many people who have paid and quite rightly going to go, its their perogative, but dont sit their whinging when you're not prepared to do anything about it. Not a dig at the NSU, not a superfan debate, just opinion. Its common sense and basic ecomomics, but we've all played our part in this shambles whether we're prepared to admit it or not. But whether you go to the match or not won't affect Ashley's pocket in the least for another 3 years will it? Assuming you'd refrain from pies and a program even if you did go.

I've added that to the Mike Lies. They really need to distribute a hymn sheet so that everyone at the club can learn the same song.

New quote to add to this one to further confuse things today....

Doesn't seem to be much up with the video... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7808513.stm

I don't get his point. He's paid for 3 years but he's stopped going and he believes if we all did this it would force Ashley out despite Ashley only being interested in making money, and already having taken that money. Clearly a confused individual. I mean, Niall Quinn seems to be surviving a half empty stadium to go with his shit managerial appointment, and he's not even sold 3 years of season tickets. Why doesn't he actually use his ticket and start anti-Ashley chants at the game?