essembeeofsunderland

The package,including the money,has suited Harper,so why the need to imply i am saying only the money has kept him here for 20 years.I have never said only the money has brought `loyalty' from Harper.He's a local lad.He and his family are settled in the area.He's playing for a local team.The package has suited him.If he moves to another club,he will go because the package suits him.If he'd decided to leave at anytime,would that mean he would have been `disloyal'. If you believe he has been `loyal' then surely the answer has to be YES.

Loyal to himself and family is not in dispute.Loyalty when the package suits is easy.I'm `loyal' to my employer because it suits me,but if another firm came calling and offered me a 100% rise ,bringing my wage to £700,00 a year,i'd be off if the package suited me.

6 games 0 goals.Those are the facts so no nonsense about sub appearances.If he'd scored after coming on from the bench it would count so 6 games and 0 goals.ratboy played 8 games for England and scored 0 by the way.Fact ( as Rafa would say ).

They were told he wasn't top notch would they wouldn't have it.Because they thought we were after him,they became blind to the fact he was fat,slow and average at best.A bit like their previous manager.If he scores the winner against us they will have a statue built in his honour.

Thats what i am saying.He's been happy with his package.Loyalty has never entered his head,and it wouldn't enter ours if we had accepted his package.He saw the contracts,he signed them.They suited him.So £500,000 after tax.We'd all be `loyal' for that amount.

Plenty replies but no answers to my questions.Give it a go .I have never worked with anyone who has been loyal to the company who wouldn't have moved if the money was right.So what kind of loyalty is it if it can be bought.

I'm sure the club would have prefered to pay Harper no wage,but maybe realised his `loyalty' need to come with a wage of £25,000.Would you stay with your current employers and continue to show `loyalty' to the company if you were going to be paid nowt.Staying at NUFC for 20 years has suited both parties.if Harper had been offered another contract and decided is wasn't for him,would he be showing `disloyalty' to NUFC.

No.Club finances yes.Please refer to the link

And a canny wage

Then the 3rd tier,where they are no strangers by the way.

He's shown `loyalty' to himself (and family ).Living and working in the north east has suted him ( and the £25,000 ) a week. The package has suited him ( being mainly the number 2 keeper ).Would his `loyalty' have been tested if Man City had come calling ( to repeat myself because no one has addressed this scenario and we know why ) and offered him £100,000 to move his` loyalty' to Manchester.

The makems gate receipts are half ours.This is down to lower crowds and thousands of makems not prepared to pay anything to watch .If you cannot see the link,please ask an adult before bothering me because i am quite buy at the moment.No offence like.

Me also thankful.Canny lad ( well he comes across as a canny lad ) who has become a millionaire + by having no ambition,and we'd all have done the same,if the package suited us.

Even they think they're down ,even with their Messiah as manager.

He cannot defend so best to get rid.He was at fault for yet another goal last weekend.

The usuals suspects ganging up with nothing as usual to bring to the party.

If it didn't suit him to stay,but stayed totally for the clubs benefit then yes.He's stayed because the package has always suited him.I am yet to be convinced that he has stayed for 20 years through loyalty to the club.So Cole stays at Chelsea for a number of years and it's not through loyalty yet Harper has stayed with us through loyalty.Please explain the difference,if anyone can.

Should the sweet/chocolate aisle's in supermarkets been narrower than other aisle's so fat people cannot walk along. Should local councils appoint `Fat' Wardens to hand out `fat' tickets to fat people who walk two abreast along footpaths in main towns. Should fat people be barred from public transport and taxi's because walking would do them good If fat people can produce a doctors certificate explaining that they have a medical condition which has caused their fatness then fine.

If the makems could charge everyone who came through the turnstiles their gate receipts would increase dramatically,but if they attempted this,10,000 fewer `fans' would attend games.

I expect us to get nowt at Man City. other fixtures. Arsenal v Reading Southampton v Chelsea SMB v Man Utd Wigan v Norwich Villa v Liverpool Fulham v QPR I am still looking down unfortunately

Oh, but Harper is.So if Man City had come calling a couple of years ago dangling a contract woth £100,000 a week ( lets say Harper was on £25,000 ) he would have said no because of his love/loyalty to NUFC.He's been at Newcastle United for 20 years because it has suited him and the club.

How long do you have to stay at a club for the word loyalty to be used.

Wasn't their £12m striker carried off against Wales last night.Time for Agent Graham to show the makems what he really thinks of them

I'd love to know what the gate receipts were,compared with ours,to see how much per ticket,the smb are paying.They cannot be paying more than half what we are paying for the matchday experience

Strange how a pay rise usually accompanies further loyalty.Players will go from kissing one badge to another if the money is right.