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He wants to remain in the prem as cheap as possible, so bought cisse cos we look like we're going down this season?

Why would a selling club buy obertan and give barton away?

Why, it's a valid question. Cabaye was more than we got for nolan. Obertan was more than we got for barton. Carroll's replacement is cheaper and better than Carroll. Ronaldo's replacement at Man Utd is cheaper and WORSE than Ronaldo. How are we a selling club, exactly? Because we have players that people actually want to buy now? Even before, the players that bigger clubs wanted they got, like Hamman and woodgate.

When have we sold a player, post-championship, and not replaced with either a better player or a more expensive player?

Dozens or more implies you can name and quote at least 12. Shoot ahead Granddad!

Average? But a season lasts 38 games, chum . Your words not mine. You big ball of hypocrisy.

Sorry I haven't got my director's brownie points-to league position conversion chart or ratio handy. Perhaps you could enlighten me to how that works and I'll show you. Why 'top 5'? You can qualify for europe through the league outside of the top five. You said we never would under Ashley. Does that make you wrong if we do? Yes or no will suffice. Try not to avoid the question, answering with another question and adding "yes or no will suffice" and the end of it.

Where did I say that I think that you believed me? You're absolutely bananas All supporters younger than you are know-nowts I'm guessing? You googled 'mind' yet? Honest, it could open up a whole new world for you chum.

Google 'mind', chum.

I have to laugh here because in his mind, I was genuinely trying to pass myself off as somebody who went to games in the 60s and his excellent detective instincts have shown me up to be the fraudster that I am

Let's not let this question disappear whilst he waffles on. His lack of comprehension when asking me about games in the 60's is a little bit sad and funny at the same time. I'm in my 20s ffs, I was taking the piss out of you with my 60s comments, you old goat

Jesus.

.. and the Halls. Fred didn't own the club, unfortunately chum.

Perhaps, alex... but the main issue here is that he did say it and has now adjusted his stance for fear of having to admit that he got it wrong, and will refuse to admit such if we do qualify. Aside from being tedious as fuck, it essentially renders his presence in these debates (and I use that word reluctantly ) never-ending, because he's just going to keep moving the goalposts. Put him out of his misery, imo.

Aye, he has, a few times as well Now that it's looking increasingly likely though he's trying to distance himself from ever saying it, it's now "you have to do it more than once". Anything but admit being wrong, basically.

If we finish 7th ONCE, and it gets us into europe... whilst some people are wanking, will you be admitting that you were wrong in stating that we would NEVER (ever) qualify for europe under Mike Ashley?

Nobody suggested any of those things he's said I merely stated a fact. Which is we won nothing. It's a fact. You like facts. Process it, and deal with it.

All waffle. None of it has convinced me that we won a major honour though because it's a fact that we didn't, like I stated. No point in arguing about it, it's a fact. They won nothing. Zilicccccccccccccch! Sweeeeeeeeeeeet FUCK ALL.

not an argument. Fact. Like the fact that the Halls and Shepherd won nothing in any of their seasons. End of thread

So why then, do you use the times we performed well over 38 games to mask over the times we performed poorly over 38 games by, and you do it almost daily, creating an average of several seasons combined? By doing this you try to dismiss the fact that we were in decline before Ashley bought the club. Like you say, a season is 38 games. Therefore, given that fact - have we improved since Ashley bought us?

The results are already 'similar' because Ashley, like Shepherd/Hall, has won fuck all. That's my point. I don't add up and average out european qualifications to make my judgement mate. The criteria is already set by the F.A, i.e the team that wins the cup final gets a cup, the team with the most points in a season gets a cup.. etc. Average european qualifications over a tenure is just made-up shite that you've only had to make up because they won nowt. Like Ashley.

The only place Baggio and Stevie will be meeting is the Creché, when Ant reads this shit!

Aye, keep the offering out to PM ffs. (Only joking *eagerly anticipating Baggio's response*)

Not sure I'm 'on' any agenda mate. Do you see why you're accused of making up arguments for people now? Re-read what I posted and what your response is. I didn't say or imply what you asked, I simply stated a fact, which is the Halls and Shepherd have zero major honours. You admit that their ambition was huge so therefore it must have been competence that helped the likes of Leicester won trophies whilst we remained potless?