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I'm still waiting for Rob's contribution to the gay thread myself. "Well of course when I served in back-to-back campaigns in North Africa, the camel herders practically forced their firstborn sons onto you - it would have been dishonourable not to............"

Window table at the Trafalgar Tavern in Greenwich. (This may not be entirely practical for you.)

I like the main thrust of your point. ....this isn't helping, right? In all honesty, I find that sort of thing pretty tedious and tend not to spend time with gays of the "oo, get her!" variety, so I suppose it's hard for me to judge. The fact that people are generally surprised to discover I'm gay suggests the camp 'n' screaming stereotype is fairly ingrained even in the most open-minded of people (myself included, frankly!), but whether that's just the way it is or it's perpetuated by überfags being überfaggy? Difficult to say. Either way, for all I play up that kind of thing for laughs on here sometimes, I'd hate to think I was defined by my sexuality. There's more to life. Eurovision and lovely pink cocktails, for a start! (Still not helping, right?)

Tell that to Alan Ball.

I suppose that'd be pretty conclusive evidence of a shotgun wound to the face...

With a passion. North Korea beating them would be better than us winning the World Cup as far as I'm concerned. I know the Germans "always do well", but I honestly think they could be a surprise casualty of the group phase. The squad is as poor as it's been since Euro 2004 (and yes, I'm still bitter they didn't get beaten by Latvia like they deserved) and I reckon Serbia and Ghana will both cause them problems.

This is the concern, and our opponents will be fully aware of it too. I can see him getting knacked early on and us reverting to a de facto 4-6-0, Rob Lee vs. Monaco style. I'm pretty sure the toon ended the 7-1 against Spurs without a striker on the pitch. In that case, I'll rephrase: "...reverting to a de facto 4-6-0, game we'd already won comfortably against a team who were already thoroughly defeated style". I'd love us to win the thing btw.

Seems like something of an overreaction considering he's basically right, but I guess the argument would be that stating a commonly held locker room view is the same as actively perpetuating it. Which I suppose it is at some level. I wish people would actually engage with the debate and the underlying issues rather than issuing bans/chucking eggs, though.

This is the concern, and our opponents will be fully aware of it too. I can see him getting knacked early on and us reverting to a de facto 4-6-0, Rob Lee vs. Monaco style.

The trouble is you can't ask whether Alan Carr is a good representative of the gay community without also asking if he's a good representative of the ugly annoying unfunny twat community.

you dorty little bugger! She got off lightly... He was going to take her up the Back O Skiddaw. Tis a rough passage.

I'm totally the opp. I find after the 7th pint I begin to wonder if I could get away with banging one. I'd forgotten about this.

Well and truly.

Looks more like Spock...

My liver is seriously dead after Eurovision week. Three days of detox and gym before heading to the States to clog up the arteries further. In summary, satisfied with a chance of heart failure.

"Holier than thou" stance during the campaign was bound to end in tears. Silly people.

They are, and the song's not actually bad in a Rihanna kind of way, but they've stuck a ridiculous dance routine on it and they've been drawn first. On the other hand, they've burnt millions of oil dollars in promotion and publicity, so that might be enough. </neighbourlyvotingcynicism>

Makes it about the third most modern thing in it. A friend of mine co-wrote the Irish entry but even he'd admit it's deliberately the most generic, tin whistle-playing, Titanic-evoking piece of lowest common denominator balladry. Well, he might not quite put it like that. Anyway, these are my two quiet little tips for tonight, if the people want a bit of guitar with their cheese: Which probably means we'll end up in Tbilisi next year or something.

This didn't make the final.

We'd gathered that, yes.

I bloody love that bitchslap smiley.

Most of the above.

Awesome. http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundia...calendario.html

I miss him talking about himself in third person! Did he ever resurface after the thread about body building? I'm pretty sure he had some sort of breakdown or episode iirc? No, that - of all things! - was the thread that finally broke him. Hey baybeh.