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'twas merely a jest, I doubt anyone here is surprised to learn that you get off on pain.

I keep telling you, just because I showed it you on webcam that one time does not mean I'm that kind of boy.

Poof

Some languages even have handy musical guides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZ1oPt2FVk

It's where ex-Norwich City goalkeeper Andy Marshall is responsible for deciding on all verdicts.

All part of the general assault. Francesca Martinez is awesome.

We learned last night that the Fish thinks he invented the term "HoBohemian", bless him.

Do they do burgers? If not...

Thought Obertan did exactly what he should be capable of, causing a bit of panic among a second-rate defence regardless of end product (which we know he can't do anyway). He's found his level with that lot. Marveaux had a shocker.

You can't be Bohemian and working-class. Heck, you can barely be Bohemian and working.

I don't know that they necessarily are. Maybe it's more the case that we should all be in it together against the toffs.

Buy-to-letters? Well done, you broke the housing market.

See, as a Gosforth child with a dad who's a dyed-in-the-wool Lib Dem, I was all ready to tar myself with the middle-class brush until I read what NJS said about "good working class values (community/humility/work ethic)" - because that's precisely what's been instilled in me, from my dad and the generations before him, even with my relatively comfortable upbringing. And I can't imagine feeling at ease with it being any other way. I suppose (as others have said) it's a question of whether aspiration - and success - means automatically surrendering your class status. My folks are now, and will retire, Gosforth stock but they bought their first house in Benwell for next to nowt after years on a mortgage waiting list and grafted their way up to the comfort they were able to provide me as a kid. So I've never wanted for a safety net, but equally I've never been spoiled (if anything, they were over-keen to ensure I wasn't ). But I think I would still automatically tend to equate "middle-class", or at least "comfortably off", with precisely that safety net - if you know you could go back to your mam and dad in the worst-case scenario and have them bail you out, even if you'd never have the brass neck to actually go through with it, then there's an argument you've edged into middle-class territory. Question is, is that so bad?

Only reason I might give it a look.

Q: What's the cleanest country in Europe? A: Cleanland! (Finland!) @TheMansDaddy is my friend.

Now there is.

Which is irrelevant to your tendency to extrapolate "all" from "some".

"I" is a verb now? (Also: bastid. )

Nahhh, not racist. Just ignorant.

Not got to know many of them, have you?

Sorry, I forgot that every post in this thread had to start with an adjective. Actually, rephrase that: Sorry. I forgot that every post in this thread had to start with an adjective.

Didn't stand the Fish up tonight. Let him never complain again.