Rhys1879SAFC

On tonight isn't it? Reckon I'll watch the hour late version at 10pm. Couldn't believe it when he walked on the Thames like.

Hopefully (smith, perch, routledge, best etc) Nar, hopefully Ben Arfa, Tioté and Barton. Gotta admit, I see sense in Ashley's financial tactics mind, he may be a clueless fucker when it comes to football but he certainly knows how to run a business.

A common refrain in Consett Touché.

Small town with almost the same population eh? People like you are the reason we call mags 'deluded' There is very little between our clubs in terms of size, history, fanbase. Sunderland fans like newcastle fans come from generations of hard working, working class families (miners, shipbuilders) newcastle is the nicer of the two cities. No doubt about it. But to say that Newcastle is the industrial capital of the north east is fukin laughable. In my honest opinion people from Sunderland are generally more polite, more friendly and more down to earth than people from newcastle Not being from either city I agree with this. Newcastle has people like... well, Leazes Mag living in it, which just about sums the place up, looks nice but still has inbred fucking morons living in it who look down on everyone else for no reason, plenty of shitholes in Newcastle too. People in Sunderland are always very polite and helpful, whenever you're stuck be it with directions they'll help you out, ask for directions in Newcastle and you can't understand a word the fuckers say, the broad Geordie accent is absolutely disgusting, "ya need to gan reet owa hyar"... Maybe the group of Peruvians who visited St James' Park a couple of years ago who were racially abused by some Mag will agree with me, they ended up visiting the SoL and went home with a shirt each, just about sums the difference in attitudes up.

Sunderland have a great owner, have their best team arguably in living memory, were unbeaten against the the best 5 teams at home last season, have signed 9 decent players this summer. While Newcastle sold their best young striker in years, have been deliberately lied to, have been relegated, had managers that have been sacked for no logical reason, have been taken the piss out of, have been proven in court that they are held in contempt by the owners, have no clear long term plan, will sell their best players when the optimum value time is right, and are largely directionless. Yet still 8000 more fans stream in to the the stadium every week. Not only that our ticket prices are at least 60% more than Sunderland's. 28 QUID FOR THE BEST SEATS IN THE HOOSE!! That's about £70 odd at Newcastle for the biggest 5 games of the season, cheapest tickets 45 quid in a recession. If we had your ticket prices, they'd need to build level 8 and level 9 never mind level 7. EASILY 2:1 in our favour in the North East. Even in Co.Durham we probably have more supporters, towns like Darlo completely in our favour half of Hartlepool support us, and this is past your catchment area even. 2:1 is conservative. Nah, deluded. And don't go giving it the "we've been treat so poorly" bollocks, if you'd had it as bad as we have over the past 20 years then would you fuck have 40,000 coming in through the gates. We had 47,000 regularly coming in between 2000-2002 and then Bob Murray and Reid fucked us off, two relegations with two record points lows... and you wonder why some fans are still finding it hard to believe in the club these days? Its going to take years to shake off the damage those two relegations did to the club, to still have an average of 40,000 coming in, and still get the odd crowd of 48,000 here and there is absolutely fucking unbelievable. Don't try and deride Sunderland's support because for all your bitching and moaning about whats happened at Newcastle over the last few years, its nothing compared to what we've been through matey, perhaps you should try and get your head around that.

Again with the cities debate... I disagree with the the ratio to fans is 2:1 in Newcastle's favour aswell, surely your average crowd would be more than 7000 higher than ours if that were the case? Its pretty close in the north-east I would wager, outside of Sunderland, I think County Durham is still the hotbed of Mackem support, I know loads of Sunderland fans from Gateshead, not sure how though, you'd think they'd be all Mags and I was quite surprised at the amount of SAFC fans from towns like Hartlepool and Darlington. Internationally however, I would be a fool to argue its close in any way.

Obsessed.

I also don't see why the actual cities need to be brought into this? Not being born in either Newcastle or Sunderland it doesn't really bother me, I go to Newcastle for nights out and to socialise, whereas I don't think I've ever set foot in Sunderland other than to watch a match, whats the big deal? Its not like calling Sunderland a shithole is going to upset me.

RTG is an embarrassment, I think any like minded SAFC fan would acknowledge that.

Granted, and everyone cares about Newcastle? Everyone fucking hates you from what I've seen/heard, everytime I go to an away game and get chatting to the opposition supporters they all call you deluded fuckwits living off 3 good years in the 90s and then 2 good years last decade... Special indeed. The whole country was pissing themselves laughing at your demise, don't kid yourself otherwise. Whereas when Sunderland go down/come up? De Ja Vu! Nobody cares. Not anymore though eh mate? We're building something whereas you're doing what? Gotta be killing you seeing how times have changed. FTM.

Granted, and everyone cares about Newcastle? Everyone fucking hates you from what I've seen/heard, everytime I go to an away game and get chatting to the opposition supporters they all call you deluded fuckwits living off 3 good years in the 90s and then 2 good years last decade... Special indeed. The whole country was pissing themselves laughing at your demise, don't kid yourself otherwise.

Baffles me anarl. Everton - 9 league titles Sunderland - 6 league tities Newcastle - ...4 Doesn't make sense does it?

Now now Tom, firstly I am not a Mackem per sé, I live 17 miles from Sunderland and 12 from Newcastle, so technically I should be one of you... To be "one of the biggest clubs in the world" you have to at least garnered quite abit of silverware, not four measly league titles of which the last was won in 1927... Its easy to say Newcastle have a big fanbase, which is undoubtedly true... as do Sunderland. However, we're only competeing against each other for support in the north-east, in the north-west there are United, Liverpool, Everton, City, Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn all fighting against each other for fans. If we had that many clubs in our region then no way would Newcastle and Sunderland get the gates they do now... FACT. However, this is all slightly off topic, I could do with a laugh so please start fighting amongst yourselves again about how awesome/shit Mike Ashley is.

Believe what you want... I've read some shite on this thread but "Newcastle are one of the biggest clubs in the world" is still my favourite.

Means I will have to buy two tickets now.

Where you pulling this figure of £30m from? Wickham - £8m Dong Won - Less than £1m Larsson - Free Vaughan - Free Gardner - £5m Brown - £1m O'Shea - £5m Westwodd - Free £20m is a more realistic figure? Which is just the Henderson money re-invested, never mind the £24m we got for Bent in January. Although you can take £6m off that from the aquisition of Sessegnon.

Watching Newsnight last night and the subject of Scottish independence came up. My question is do you think of yourself as English, British or both? Would you be happy with the Scots getting independence? Should there be an English parliament?

You should be happy with survival again for another season, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. Nolan's gone, Barton and Enriqué could be away, and so far all you've brought in are a couple of unknown Frenchies and a centre-forward who has just been relegated.

Blackadder Goes Forth is better. Shouldn't you be looking for a job? Gan lose some weight you oaf.

Blackadder Goes Forth is better.

Out of the four listed I'd only really like Bent and Welbeck back. Onuoha started like a house on fire and his form culminated in that wonder goal against Chelsea in November, since then he has been utter turd and would I fuck pay the £8m City have reportedly quoted for him. I'm hopeful we'll maybe get Welbeck on loan again for a season from United. Regarding Henderson, I'm with you Tom. The lad has potential but I'm unsure whethere he will fulfill it, he was absolute turd for about 70% of games last season. He blew hot and cold, £20m is a ridiculous transfer fee and I think we've mugged the Scouser's off to be honest.

Hopefully the former. If he helps us to a good season or two and then a bigger club comes in for him and pays a substantial amount then I think we will all wish the lad well, hopefully he figures a lot in the England set-up too, about time the national team started to blood more youngsters. There's only really Wilshere and Carroll been brought into the squad since last year's World Cup humiliation. Gardner has signed too, really happy with that one, we've been lacking a goalscoring threat from midfield but with him and Sessegnon in there then hopefully we won't need to splash out really big money on another centre-forward. The defence needs sorted out then I think we're ready.

Still not even into July yet and we're well on the way. Expect more players to come in, looking forward to the start of the season.