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That's not always completely down to the manager, but I think in this case, it is. How could they be expected to perform when the system was totally wrong?

Hang from a chandelier? I find suicide usually does the trick.

We're being outdone by bots!

is that basically carbs, then? I'd love some advice on what to take on the morning after more..ahem..extreme nights out. They make hangovers look like a birthday present.

He's not even particularly good at that.

I wonder if that would make him the player he is for Chelsea. Neville might not be a bad shout, give him the manager's job, while you're at it.

Rooney was sent off because he was frustrated, I don't blame him, I was shouting at the telly. He was frustrated because of the impossible position his manager placed him in.

There was an interesting moment last night, when Beckham went down. Neville indicated he should be subbed off to the bench, when he was still protesting to the bench that he wanted to stay on, They subbed him off for Lennon a couple of minutes later. Well, I found it interesting, anyway.

Come on, man. You got to the QFs with the easiest run imaginable. In spite of Erikkson, and you were shit in spite of a potentially great squad. He wouldn't play Walcott and was reluctant to play Crouch - who was the only fit target man in your squad! What the fuck was Rooney doing in that position? If he's that great a player why not slap him in goal. And if you can't see that Eriksson was responsible for that sending off, I don't know...

Maybe he was upset that a bloke that was supposed to be his team-mate had stamped on his compatriot and team-mate's bollocks? The ref may have been calming the situation before handing out a card, I'd recommend you watch the replays again if you think he was "in his face screaming", I have done, in HD (© Zathras ). Despite what you may want to believe, there are 2 sides to this story. I'm not 100% sure of one or two of the incidents, but what if Rooney meant that stamp - where does that leave your argument?

Can this thread be stickied for the next time I need this advice? More important than anything else up there tbh.

I've gone for France, as I've liked France and Germany from the start. And now that the Aussies are out.

I was watching the same match as you, that's what I saw. When Viana missed that penalty, I was going to ask you lot if it was worth the 7 million loss... well for a while.

Yes, Eriksson was directly to blame for Rooney being that wound up. Yes, you would have won that game comfortably under a decent manager.

I can't help liking him, actually. Maybe I do fancy him? All he did, by the way, was say to the ref "Did you see what he did?" when an opponent had stomped on his team mates nuts. I probably would have just "stuck one on" Rooney, but I suppose that would just make me the better man.

I'd give him some leeway, all the blokes in the studio were gutted, Hansen was pulling them through, but they were all on the verge of tears. I thought the Italians beat the Autralians because they were not 'mature' enough for the Italian antics, and I agree you were done similarly today.

He does seem to stomp down, whether he knew exactly where he was going to hit is debatable, but I think he went for a stomp. You can't blame the lad for being frustrated, though. I had to laugh when Shearer lost it in the studio (and knew he had) and suggested Rooney should "stick one on him" in training.

it's all about taste, but I do admire your strength in the face of adversity.

As a neutral, I thought you had the best selection of players available to you, of any nation. Sven fucked you. Hard luck, lads. I mean that.

Back to sex academy for you, wigger!

Seminal?

You'd shoot a man just to watch him die tbh. Fish - Can you really call the music from Phantom Menace seminal? Unless you mean it's wank, of course...

the former...while on the latter?

That was classic, he's never done much worth banning that I saw. It's a slippery slope I tell thee, erosion of poster's rights. How far can it be from prolifically irksome to perpetually unfunny?

Are you a cosmetic surgeon?