adios

I don't think there's any point in arguing semantics. I found it ironic that you appealed for a higher level of debate and in the next sentence dragged it down to its lowest level. There's way more than one "correct view" on here (or way less tbh), I suspect the reason that you believe that might have something to do with you projecting opinions that aren't theirs onto other people, like I'm pretty sure you did with me last week. You stopped responding when I asked for clarification.

Aye, 30% was a bit optimistic tbf, I was assigning you a range of 15-30%. Basically I think we pretty much agree on Martins, but you like to go about it a certain way to wind-up certain members, who either don't realise the humour, or are looking for a fight anyway.

The possibility of jail time is for lying to federal investigators rather than taking the drugs. That makes more sense. Still, a slap on the wrist I would hope.

Missed the game, my site wasn't carrying it for whatever ridiculous reason. Getting a little sick of these ad hominem attacks tbh, boils down to "I don't like Owen, you lot don't like Martins", no need to go after me for it you load of wankers. Certain admins ought to be embarassed I think. See the irony (couple of levels)?

I'm not a big proponent of corporate rights, they can sue for damages if they like. Anyway, can't she just counter-sue for getting them more exposure?

Bet they didn't know either. Both players have pros and cons, Owen is obviously class if he can stay fit (which he purposely doesn't ldo). Martins is never a natural finisher with a football brain; class when he is, but how often is that? I reckon his problem is psychological given his form over the last few games (affected by talk of his form and being benched), but he's always going to be somewhat inconsistent regardless. I reckon you're ~30% wind-up with Martins. It'd just be nice to have a rational conversation about what the players bring to the side and whether the good outweighs the bad, but this is t'internet, so...

I've got nothing then. Shame you've no irrational obsession of a diminutive striker for me to pick on...

You not at the match today? Plastic tbh.

If you saw that coming towards you with a backpack on, you'd shit yourself. FACT!

Jail time seems a bit silly for something like this.

What was that? He went down easy for a penalty, didn't even need to see the replay on a dodgy stream to know it was a dive. (Only a couple minutes before he scored)

That Owen's fucking shite, isn't he? Nice goal and assist by Emre, shame about the dive.

Might not be a proxy issue, I have the same problem from France.

Where's Renton btw?

The science zealots argue in a way that often has little to do with the reason they're espousing*. Then again, TI, you completely misinterpreted what I was saying, and then got on your high horse about something I never said when I tried to discuss it with you. Maybe you could learn a lesson here too? *Not sure if that's the word I'm looking for there.

Aye, I meant that all the valid points you're making may be somewhat wasted if the first words out of your mouth are "Listen cunt-features..."

Good stuff, I always find this is exactly the kind of attitude that gets people to listen to reason.

A hell of a lot more than 10% of people are illogical, I'm not sure I'm that bothered which particular illogic they choose.

Owen the 22nd of October and Duff the 3rd of November according to physioroom.com, not sure how reliable that is.

I kind of read the article in the OP as "Teachers 'fear debate in classroom'" with some confusion until I got to the bit about him releasing a book to combat the 'issue'.

Outrage at a bloody foreigner trying to stem the flow of bloody foreigners? Surely not, snakehips.

That one sounds a little less child-friendly than the version I remember.

Maybe because it's not? Then it makes even less sense? People being familiar with Duff's excellent performances in the Premier League with other teams but not with Emre's seems pretty plausible to me. I want to see both of them perform under a decent manager before I jump to any conclusions.

Maybe because it's not?